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Saturn's Rings

Regardless of the scientific community's inability to latch on, there are very simple explanations to assimilate these bizarre features.

Neon Saturn
Neon Saturn Credit: VIMS Team, U. Arizona, ESA, NASA

(SAN DIEGO) - In a January 2010 television program titled “Essence in Science”, Dr. Robert Granetz created a

wave in a ribbon of glowing plasma while demonstrating how a magnetic field contains the plasma in their nuclear fusion reactor experiments.

Then he showed a glowing fluorescent tube and said this was an example of plasma conducting electromagnetism.

In a NASA advisory dated Jan. 2, 2010 titled “Category: Saturn’s Rings”, it states:

”Scientists think electromagnetic forces are responsible in some way for these features, but no detailed theory has been worked out. Freshly formed spokes seem to revolve around the planet at the same rate as the rotation of the magnetic field and the interior of Saturn, independent of their distance from the center of Saturn. It is therefore suspected that the tiny dust grains which form the spokes are electrically charged. Older spokes, which presumably have lost their charge, revolve with the underlying large ring particles.”

Howard Keen

In a letter to me from the moderator of the “Telepulse” TV program dated Nov. 27, 1980, the late Harold Keen wrote:

“Enclosed is a copy of a clipping from the UCSD student campus newspaper.
Do the theories of the UCSD scientists, based on electromagnetic fields, jibe
with your theories? If so, I might send a copy of your statements to Professor
Hannes Alfven, with whom I have had some contact in the past. He is an
internationally respected scientist.”

The UCSD article stated:

“At first, JPL’s scientists were at a loss to explain the findings. Upon first seeing them, they released statements to the press such as ‘These findings are inexplicable with our knowledge of the laws of physics.’ Their theories, though, took into account only the effects of gravity on the particles, but not electromagnetic fields. The findings were perfectly explainable under the theories developed over the past 20 years by Alfven, and refined by Mendis. These theories deal with the effects of Saturn’s changing electromagnetic fields on the particles surrounding the planet. They say that the dark spoke-like regions consist of dust-size particles which can acquire an electric charge. These charged particles then ride around the planet in synchrony with Saturn’s changing magnetic fields. Similarly, the braiding pattern could evolve as a result of electromagnetic forces on intermediate-size particles. Larger particles would be most influenced by gravity and maintain a circular orbit while smaller particles would be influenced almost totally by electromagnetic fields. Intermediate particles would be influenced by both forces and thus would exhibit this twisting pattern.”

I explained to Mr. Keen that their concept is not the same as mine because their concept involves the physical movement of particles of dust. My concept involves only the stimulation of atoms of normally invisible atoms of gases to a glowing, visible state of excitement.

Hannes Alfven -

The gases remain stationary. Only the stimulating magnetic field current flow varies in intensity to stimulate the gases to a brighter or dimmer glow to create these bizarre features.

Apparently, the scientists adopted the explanation of Hannes Alfven as their officially accepted version.

As a result, 28 years later, the scientists are still trying to determine how these particles of dust are creating the bizarre movements of the dark spokes and the braided ring effect.

In a NASA television program titled “Lord of the Rings” the narrator said:

“Cassini’s close encounter with Saturn will bring us closer to unlocking its secrets.”

Then, Dr. Carolyn Porco, Cassini Team Leader, said: “It is quite complex and it will take us a long time to figure it all out. I don’t think we will ever be able to figure all of it out.”

If they adopted my concept, it is very simple to explain and assimilate these bizarre features.


Edsel Chromie is a Detroit Michigan native who moved to San Diego in 1965. Edsel is a World War Two Navy veteran who served as a motor machinists mate on diesel electric systems where he learned about the magnetic field current swirling around the primary current flow through a wire as a part of Navy training to trace the direction of flow of the electricity in case of torpedo damage.

This led to Edsel's unique explanations of many phenomena of the universe. He also has four approved patents on solar energy and Sun tracking systems. Today Edsel writes about this unique set of life experiences for, conveying information that seems especially relevant as nuclear disaster, potential changes in the earth's atmosphere, and what many view as an increasing level of natural disasters continue to dominate headlines. Perhaps many of the answers are on hand, yet unaccepted by the scientific community. You can write to Ed Chromie at this address:

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Edsel Chromie April 12, 2011 11:38 pm (Pacific time)

JDA Not one scientist can explain where the immense volume of water and dust came from to form the rings, estimated to be many times the total volume of all of the oceans, lakes and rivers on Earth. Not one scientist can explain how they became trapped in the 250,000 mile diameter rings only 7 miles thick. Not one scientist can explain how they remained in this configuration for thousands of years. The “particles” in the E-ring is reported to be 1 to 2 microns in size and did not have their usual calling card of water ice features. By comparison, cigarette smoke is 3 microns in size and the human hair averages 22 microns in thickness. The “particles” are reported to be orbiting at 20,000 to 40,000 miles per hour. Can you imagine containing particles smaller than cigarette smoke in this relatively thin configuration at that speed without any solid barrier or container of some kind? Dr. Porco and Dr. Spiker wrote an unbelievably ludicrous explanation that “Saturn’s rings are in the plane they are in because of the oblateness of Saturn. And they are thin because the inevitable collisions among them, which are inelastic and therefore result in a loss of energy but conserve angular momentum overall, cause them to settle into that plane in a very thin, very equilibrated sheet. And it is the orbital speeds that are 20 – 40 thousand miles per hour. The collisional speeds now, in the equilibrated ring plane, are mm’s per second.” Unless you and the scientist can present a more sensible explanation of these problems, my explanation is better and easily assimilated in precise detail

JDA April 11, 2011 11:52 am (Pacific time)

The rings of saturn are composed almost exclusively of ice, and whether ice or dust could be excited to fluorescence is debatable. The spoking pattern is thought to be driven by electrostatics, which is really in line with your general view of the universe. The braiding has been found to be a physical phenomenon arising from irregularities in density:

From Wikipedia / Rings of Saturn
"In 1980, Voyager 1 made a fly-by of Saturn that showed the F-ring to be composed of three narrow rings that appeared to be braided in a complex structure; it is now known that the outer two rings consist of knobs, kinks and lumps that give the illusion of braiding, with the less bright third ring lying inside them."

From Wikipedia / Rings of Saturn
"Until 1980, the structure of the rings of Saturn was explained as being caused exclusively by the action of gravitational forces. Then images from the Voyager spacecraft showed radial features in the B ring, known as spokes, which could not be explained in this manner, as their persistence and rotation around the rings was not consistent with orbital mechanics.[41] The spokes appear dark in backscattered light, and bright in forward-scattered light (see images in gallery); the transition occurs at a phase angle near 45°. The leading theory regarding the spokes' composition is that they consist of microscopic dust particles suspended away from the main ring by electrostatic repulsion, as they rotate almost synchronously with the magnetosphere of Saturn. The precise mechanism generating the spokes is still unknown, although it has been suggested that the electrical disturbances might be caused by either lightning bolts in Saturn's atmosphere or micrometeoroid impacts on the rings.[42]
The spokes were not observed again until some twenty-five years later, this time by the Cassini space probe. The spokes were not visible when Cassini arrived at Saturn in early 2004. Some scientists speculated that the spokes would not be visible again until 2007, based on models attempting to describe their formation. Nevertheless, the Cassini imaging team kept looking for spokes in images of the rings, and they were next seen in images taken on 5 September 2005.[43]
The spokes appear to be a seasonal phenomenon, disappearing in the Saturnian midwinter and midsummer and reappearing as Saturn comes closer to equinox. Suggestions that the spokes may be a seasonal effect, varying with Saturn's 29.7-year orbit, were supported by their gradual reappearance in the later years of the Cassini mission.[44]"

Anonymous April 10, 2011 9:43 pm (Pacific time)

I am very much interested in learning about the writer's solar energy patents!

Matthew April 10, 2011 9:13 pm (Pacific time)

Thank You Mr. Chromie

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