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Move to Impeach Cheney Gains Support in Congress

More Democrats signing on to the idea of a Vice-Presidential impeachment, could it really happen?

Vice President Dick Cheney
Vice President Dick Cheney
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(SALEM, Ore.) - A House Resolution to impeach U.S. Vice-President Dick Cheney, Dennis Kucinich's H.R. 333, is gathering more support. The national impeachment continues to grow and generate increasing interest since being referred to the House Judiciary Committee last month, a Kucinich spokesperson said.

As a member of that committee, Representative Robert Wexler and two other committee members, Luis Gutierrez and Tammy Baldwin, have joined together in demanding that the legal action against Cheney moves forward.

Congressman Robert Wexler of Florida is just one elected official who says the charges are too serious to ignore.

"There is credible evidence that the Vice President abused the power of his office, and not only brought us into an unnecessary war but violated the civil liberties and privacy of American citizens. It is the constitutional duty of Congress to hold impeachment hearings"

He went on to say that he believes Vice President Dick Cheney and the Bush Administration have demonstrated a consistent pattern of abusing the law and misleading Congress and the American people.

"We see the consequences of these actions abroad in Iraq and at home through the violations of our civil liberties,” Wexler said.

Congresswoman Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin, stated in August that published reports identify, "the Vice-President’s willful and repeated disregard for the rule of law, international treaties, environmental protections, and the common good."

Wexler and Baldwin joined Congressman Luis Gutierrez in penning an Op-Ed that calls for committee hearings on a bill to impeach Dick Cheney on a variety of charges that include allegations of manipulating intelligence to boost the case for the war with Iraq, a very serious charge.


The Op-Ed that ran in the Philadelphia Enquirer December 27th (Impeach Cheney now- The allegations that he abused power are credible.) states, "The issues at hand are too serious to ignore, including credible allegations of abuse of power that if proven may well constitute high crimes and misdemeanors under our constitution."

"The charges against Vice President Cheney relate to his deceptive actions leading up to the Iraq war, the revelation of the identity of a covert agent for political retaliation, and the illegal wiretapping of American citizens."

House leaders and the leading Democratic presidential candidates don't support impeachment. One thing they point to is the timeframe and expense that surrounded the impeachment proceedings against President Clinton, citing how the business of politics in the U.S. ground to a near standstill as the nation's attention was diverted by the effort to expose the President over a sex act with a White House intern. Gutierrez saying hearings, "need not tie up Congress for a year and shut down the nation."

The White House, in a statement, said Democrats were shirking responsibilities on issues such as childrens’ [sic] health insurance "and yet they find time to waste an afternoon on an impeachment vote against the vice president. … This is why Americans shake their head in wonder about the priorities of this Congress."

But Kucinich and Wexler and others in Congress say they won't be swayed as they utilize an existing arm of the Democratic system to see that impeachment proceedings are brought forward against the elected leader of out nation's second highest political office.




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Godsofchaos January 7, 2008 10:49 am (Pacific time)

"Skipping a 2nd dessert?"Jefferson Maybe he had latrine duty.


Jefferson January 6, 2008 2:14 pm (Pacific time)

Godofchaos what I have noticed regarding the character's Henry/SFI and the kid feldman is they will not admit that Isreal intentionally killed our fellow Americans on the USS Liberty, or that they currently engage in lethal torture, etc. , while receiving billions in US financial and military aid (maybe they have dual citizenship and don't want to upset this rogue country? Aren't their families originally from Russia? I don't know, maybe I'm wrong? So many moved here from Russia in the early part of the 20th century and so many ended up in the media [many had fraudulent documents claiming different ethnic/racial backgrounds and had made-up family histories as though they had been in America for generations. (Not unlike what the illegals are doing here right now). That is what Sen. Joe McCarthy was involved in back during the 50's... exposing people who didn't like what our country was about, etc.!) Maybe SFI prefers to beat up on American hero's like he has been doing?. SFI can just talk about waterboarding and then make "ideological hay" on the backs of our PTSD-suffering veterans with some very questionable analyses[shame on him!!], I didn't think he would stoop to that level, but I was wrong (I will share that with people on my veteran's database by providing the "exact wording" of his post's so there can be no misunderstanding what he said [maybe his son's can do a show on this matter, I heard that they were highly connected with the international broadcast media, how exciting, I feel a bit faint...it passed], whereas he has this pattern of misrepresenting what I say. I will never do that with him, just the facts, and the left hates those! Then on a previous post, the navy deck mopper seaman feldman wrote how he put his life on the line. How? Skipping a 2nd dessert?


Godsofchaos January 6, 2008 11:54 am (Pacific time)

"I guess he has his 1st Amendment rights, but those of us who kept him and his spawn safe, have other rights that the "left" decides as to what they are."Jefferson I noticed to that Henry Ruark is very elitist. The fact he thinks his ideology is the only true and all other built on falsehoods shows how superior he thinks he is. As for what I was talking about. Salem News decided to nuke that part of my post. I thought you where guiding my attention to Israel's attack on USS Liberty.


Jefferson January 5, 2008 6:44 pm (Pacific time)

Godofchaos the website is www.ussliberty.com and it is about a very important event in our country's history and what LBJ did "not do" and why, is the reason he was compelled to not run for another term. It had nothing to do with Vietnam, which you may have learned was the reason. In addition, by Hollywood not producing a movie on this event says quite a bit about the people who make the movies that impact our culture in such a significant way. Note: MYTH: That the TET offensive was the reason LBJ decided not to run. The fact is that the TET offensive was a tremendous victory for U.S. forces. Over 90% of the causalties were North Vietnamese/Viet Cong; approx. 5% South Vietnamese and approx. 5% were U.S. forces. Tremendous victory that the so-called professional journalists mischaracterized as a defeat. Veterans banded together and made sure LBJ knew he would be defeated in a landslide of not only votes but of utter contempt for his treasonous acts! This was made known to him in late summer, 1967. Also in 1967 my assessment of the MSM became essentially what my assessment of SFI is, and for the same empirical reasons. Later in 1968 after many spirited conversations with former Oregon Sen. Wayne Morse, I and several of my associates banded together to do what any citizen has the right to do, work towards unseating this individual, which happened, because the voter's of Oregon realized he had to go. Henry/SFI evidently feels I had no right to do this, ahhh...I guess he has his 1st Amendment rights, but those of us who kept him and his spawn safe, have other rights that the "left" decides as to what they are...poor dear.


Godsofchaos January 5, 2008 4:03 pm (Pacific time)

Was this the article that you were talking about?


Godsofchaos January 5, 2008 3:49 pm (Pacific time)

"By the way are you familiar with (will give address) www.uss.liberty.com ?"Jefferson No, but will check it out.


Jefferson January 5, 2008 9:27 am (Pacific time)

Godofchaos thanks for setting me straight, for some reason I was thinking it was Iran. Your logistic (aviation fuel needs) is also right on. By the way are you familiar with (will give address) www.uss.liberty.com ?


Godsofchaos January 5, 2008 2:28 pm (Pacific time)

"Note: Most of these Clinton donator's leave the country. Did Atty. Gen. Janet Reno avoid doing her duty by not trying to extradite them?"Impeachable Hillary Good point. I forgotten about that.


Impeachable Hillary? January 5, 2008 10:18 am (Pacific time)

SAN FRANCISCO — Norman Hsu, the shamed political powerbroker and DEMOCRATIC donor, was sentenced Friday to a three-year prison term by a California judge in connection with a 1992 plea in a fraud case in which investors lost millions of dollars in an elaborate Ponzi scheme. Note: Most of these Clinton donator's leave the country. Did Atty. Gen. Janet Reno avoid doing her duty by not trying to extradite them? How far,wide and deep have they hurt America? Hillary is about to slide into the Gore/Kerry abyss. Good Riddance. Go Obama, for he will lose all 50 states!


Godsofchaos January 4, 2008 8:39 pm (Pacific time)

"Godofchaor Isreal did attack some facilities in Iran back in the 80's."Jefferson I think you are confusing Iraq with Iran. In 1981, when the reactor was nearly complete, Prime Minister Begin of Israel felt that the threat required immediate action. He decided to go it alone and launch a raid to destroy the nuclear plant. Eight Israeli F-16 fighters bombed the Iraqi facility, in what was seen in Israel as a model of pre-emptive action. What hurts Israel air force when it comes to Iran is fuel. Yes they can bomb them but as far as I know they don’t have an aircraft in their service that would have enough fuel for the return trip. Iraq on the other hand was close enough for them to bomb them and return safely. "Eventually something will happen that may be unstoppable..."Jefferson Agreed Iran could very well could be the spark the sets the Middle East aflame.


Jefferson January 4, 2008 3:44 pm (Pacific time)

Godofchaor Isreal did attack some facilities in Iran back in the 80's. Eventually something will happen that may be unstoppable...


Godsofchaos January 4, 2008 11:38 am (Pacific time)

"People should be aware that if Iran gets a deliverable nuke, Isreal will attack, not us!"Anonymous It would be a suicide mission though without the support of America. Israel’s military is more built for defense and Iran is far enough from Israel’s borders to make military action by the Jewish state limited. Special forces or suicide run with air force is the only, short of nuking,options that I see open to their military forces.


Anonymous January 4, 2008 9:51 am (Pacific time)

Godofchaos the below statement of your's says it all: "So far all I have heard is personal feelings and not actual laws that have been violated. I want specifics not lame vague statements. Shows your dishonesty and cowardice in spades." Many promoters of impeachment cannot state a specific law, while they also ignore previous saber rattling comments by not only members of congress but also so-called celebrity personalities that were saying we need to do something about Iraq, and this was long before Bush was elected. The impeachment issue has been politically driven and they have a substantial pool of useful idiots to be the squeaky wheels. IF ANYTHING CLINTON SHOULD BE ARRESTED ALONG WITH SEVERAL OF HIS CRONIES AND TRIED FOR TREASON. Note: I do recognize that some people who are motivated to see impeachment proceedings occur have reasons that are not political, I believe that this upcoming October (if not sooner, and it will be info about WMD, yellowcake from Africa, etc.) you will rceive info that may help re-orientate your thinking in this matter. People should be aware that if Iran gets a deliverable nuke, Isreal will attack, not us!


Jimmy January 4, 2008 4:55 am (Pacific time)

Those two aren't loyal Americans, they're internationalists whose only loyalty is to the New World Order. So even if they were impeached and found guilty of treason and convicted they'd have plenty of place of refuge to run off to around the world to escape punishment. So the whole impeachment proceeding would amount to nothing more than yet another distraction from what the Rothchilds and Rockefellers are doing to our country.


Godsofchaos January 3, 2008 10:42 pm (Pacific time)

"On the other hand, the man deserves a quick and fair trial; quick as in 5 minutes, and fair as in convicted for perjury, murder, failure to abide by U.S. laws,and a blatant disregard for the sanctity of life."Cody Sheets That defiantly sounds fair since you have already decided the out come. Let’s just destroy the justice system in our country that makes us a free society and replace it with a tyrannical one. Am I the only who isn’t so blinded by hate to realize this attitude would led to the destruction of our society? Am I the only one who remembers innocent until proven guilty? I love how fair and open-minded people have already decided Bush’s fate even though he hasn’t been charged with anything yet. As for your crimes. Perjury: when did Bush lie under oath and in court? murder:Who did Bush murder? failure to abide by U.S. laws:what other laws did he break? blatant disregard for the sanctity of life: In what way has this become a crime and how did he disregard human life? Thank you for at least givening a list but unless given reasons how he broke these laws I having a hard time beleiving that he actually broke them.


Cody Sheets January 3, 2008 10:08 pm (Pacific time)

Anyone who blindly follows a man who can say, "The same folks that are bombing innocent people in Iraq were the ones who attacked us in America on September the 11th." --Washington, D.C., July 12, 2007 has got to be impeached. On the other hand, the man deserves a quick and fair trial; quick as in 5 minutes, and fair as in convicted for perjury, murder, failure to abide by U.S. laws,and a blatant disregard for the sanctity of life. This man is the father of fear. Unite congress....unite senate....unite America.


Godsofchaos January 3, 2008 9:50 pm (Pacific time)

"Godsofchaos - so you think the purpose of reporters is to do and accomplish nothing then?"Neal Feldman No more likely to just report. You remember what being a reporter means don't you? They just present information not to change the world. Reporters are supposed to report about other people changing the world not the other way around. "Oh, and you made the challenge to supply a short list of wrongdoing by Cheney and Shrub that justifies their impeachment and renewal and I have you some and yet you ignore what I presented." Neal Feldman Refresh my memory then. So far all I have heard is personal feelings and not actual laws that have been violated. I want specifics not lame vague statements. "Shows your dishonesty and cowardice in spades." Neal Feldman Why because I ask questions that need to be asked,just like Kolchek. If anything it shows bravery since I am willing to take heat from you and anyone else ,in so far vain hope that Tim King, the only person I want to hear from, will address a question about his article that I have felt like has be ignored.


Neal Feldman January 3, 2008 3:29 pm (Pacific time)

Godsofchaos - so you think the purpose of reporters is to do and accomplish nothing then? Hmmm? Oh, and you made the challenge to supply a short list of wrongdoing by Cheney and Shrub that justifies their impeachment and renewal and I have you some and yet you ignore what I presented. Shows your dishonesty and cowardice in spades. Ah well...


Neal Feldman January 3, 2008 3:21 pm (Pacific time)

Godsofchaos - perjury in a personal case never justified impeachment which is supposed to be for doing wrong in the office of the job. That is where Shrub and Cheney committed their wrongs. Ah well...


Godsofchaos January 3, 2008 2:25 pm (Pacific time)

"Philip, we are touched by this, thank you for summing it all up and recognizing that we are trying to make a difference." Yeah and here I thought it was reporters jobs to be unbiased if observers,if their is such a thing. not trying to change the world.


Impeach : THE LINK ! January 3, 2008 2:22 pm (Pacific time)

http://www.wexlerwantshearings.com/


Philip Palij January 3, 2008 1:28 pm (Pacific time)

The truth is the American people are waking up to the fact their democracy is failing. Their rights and freedoms are being systematicaly ground down by a premeditated destruction of the principles of the constitution. Let down docile house of representatives filled with self serving career politicians susceptible to big money corporate lobbying and detached from the people who put them there, failing in their duty to hold the executive branches of government to account for their crimes. Not informed by a sugar candy mainstream press corp that should be challenging abuses but are muzzled by the real politik of big news rooms where real stories that matter, like a concerted attack on the constitution, are quietly left aside. Finaly the people, yes the people of America are to blame for allowing this state of affairs to come about. "Who cares?" sums up their attitude. Well you get the government you deserve and if by hook or by crook this government is not held to account or get us all into another world war starting with Iran they will care very deeply. Those that survive. Salem-News deserve thanks for at least trying on behalf of the people

Philip, we are touched by this, thank you for summing it all up and recognizing that we are trying to make a difference.


Jefferson January 3, 2008 12:49 pm (Pacific time)

In the fullness of time, many of you will probably be quite surprised how things will work out. Possibly there will be an October 2008 surprise coming that will help unite our country, I sure hope so, and am confident that minds will change when full story is released for public consumption. I assure you that the 2008 election will be a big disappointment for some, but you will be much better off, both security-wise and economically.


shantell January 3, 2008 12:27 pm (Pacific time)

As the people of our own Nation, We need to look at who we are, did we allow this to happen? If we do not Stand together as one they will rule the what, when, where, even down to what we eat. Can you believe that!!! Its only a matter of time. We only get what we ask for... Why do you think the White House had a fire. Look at that, and we will find more. The war needed to happen, I am sorry but it did, know what we need to do is stop the exchange of money and drugs.


jimmy January 3, 2008 12:20 pm (Pacific time)

to hell with impeachment! hang the whole gang by thier NUT SACKS !!!


Henry Ruark January 3, 2008 12:17 pm (Pacific time)

To all: N-N et al continue one-shot smear-method attack since nothing else left for them to use without ID to demonstrate both responsibilities and accountability. Without that simple proof of good faith, they are merely scare-masks flourished by off-site hands, for malign and obvious purpose of attack in this open, honest-dialog channel. When did you ever encounter authentic daily newspaper report without simple by-line, showing name (and thus putting reputation right on line) of the writers reporting ? They wish to sub their own words, without any testable credibility, since to furnish solid proof of it is impossible for them without revealing damaging motivation. Further proof is provided here by standing invitation to N-N for Op Ed written by own hand, if he can still control self to that extent, and dare step out from behind tree. Still await any response re that contact with "hero" Col. North, leading to possible interview-with-questions here, or in ANY channel. His excuse so far is fear of retaliation, not words here, but otherwise; wonder what he must have committed in past work to place himself so at risk ? Could it be connected to that early water-boarding background ? If "command and control" military principle at stake, from whence cometh such potent threat now, here, in this quiet part of U.S ? If you believe that part, have waterfront property in mid-Wisconsin you may wish to consider for rapid buy.


apparition January 3, 2008 12:10 pm (Pacific time)

"Al Qaeda" is an Arabian slang for "the toilet". Period. There were no "WMDs" period. Cheney/Bush lie everytime they open their sneering and smirking mouths. The 'neocruds' get away with stealing because fear driven sheeple believe in "Faux News". Sheeple are too lazy to do their own research. They are too dense and stupid to think independently or critically.


Chabuka January 3, 2008 11:52 am (Pacific time)

Yeah..just remember...Nixon did it, too!!!


Jefferson January 3, 2008 11:34 am (Pacific time)

Rep. Conyers is certainly an individual who needs some national sunlight regarding his behavior going back to the 1970's, but the early 60's would be better.. Is anyone out there familiar with staff accusations (his own staff members!) that were made against him? I would like to see his eyes when he answers some questions on this matter after a public-orientated ethics investigation by a bipartisan group...


rudy llanes January 3, 2008 11:24 am (Pacific time)

Give it up Godsofchoas. You're not convincing anyone.Bush and chaney along with the rest of their Neocons are up to their eyeballs in criminal acts.


Jefferson January 3, 2008 9:46 am (Pacific time)

GodofChaos makes some excellent points people. Let calmness help nuture the debate. Robert Wexler, you think he has other motives? Maybe he is looking at the 2008 election, and maybe some other strategy? This individual use to be on the FOX network quite a bit until I guess he didn't like answering various questions that were posed? Does he have something to hide? What's wrong with answering questions from journalists? Rep. Luis Gutierrez seems to be in favor of allowing over 20 million illegals to become U.S. citizens, which would also mean around another 30 millions plus family members would be able to join them (it could be far more!). So what effect would that have on America? Certainly disliking presidential administration' policies is as American as apple pie, but you have some of the people involved with this process that want the apple pie to be replaced with something else...what is their agenda? Are some out there trying to colonize us? I say without a doubt: You Bethcha! So keep the masses distracted with something else why they do that. A typical far left/socialist tactic people. Be skeptical about other's motives, for they may really just be playing you...


Anthony January 3, 2008 9:18 am (Pacific time)

Why has it taken so long to bring impeachment to the Congress? I will tell you what I have learned in the nearly four years that I have been urging Americans to organize in support of impeachment - the answer: our system of government has been overtaken by persons serving a private agenda and is manipulated from the White House down. Our Senate, our House of Reps, our political parties, and even our activist and grassroots groups are shepherded by people who set up "displays" of opposition while keeping the truly angry Americans from doing anything effective - such as national strike. And it could not be any other way. For these people to succeed in dismantling the greatest democracy in history they must control all elements of political power - from the White house to your house. I have been to Congress five times in the last year, I have spoken to Conyers, and seen the fear in his eyes. Know that Wexler will not bring you impeachment - his job is to placate and distract the American people until the elections, when impeachment of Bush/Cheney becomes moot. pledgetoimpeach.org


Linn January 3, 2008 8:25 am (Pacific time)

It is time to sign the petition! Send to all you know so it can get started now!!!


Henry Ruark January 3, 2008 6:42 am (Pacific time)

To all: GofC asks for documentation on who broke what laws in activities of this cabal. Any Internet search will turn up considerable solid information from impartial sources showing that initiation of attack on Constitution and Congressional powers started in Bush I


katiedid January 3, 2008 7:48 am (Pacific time)

THANK YOU for publishing this story! PLEASE go to www.WexlerWantsHearings.com and sign Robert Wexler's petition! Wexler sits on the Judiciary Committee and has promised to fight to have the Cheney impeachment hearings begin! www.WexlerWantsHearings.com


Henry Clay Ruark January 3, 2008 7:08 am (Pacific time)

To all: Here's sample snatched today from NYT coverage, similar to reports found daily for past year --just to prove up last Comment. Sigificance here is that the pressures nationally are now mounting so strongly that "they" are no longer able to contain righteous rage rolling higher every day in this nation now. Justice Dept. Sets Criminal Inquiry on C.I.A. Tapes By MARK MAZZETTI and DAVID JOHNSTON WASHINGTON — Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey said Wednesday that the Justice Department had elevated its inquiry into the destruction of Central Intelligence Agency interrogation videotapes to a formal criminal investigation headed by a career federal prosecutor. The announcement is the first indication that investigators have concluded on a preliminary basis that C.I.A. officers, possibly along with other government officials, may have committed criminal acts in their handling of the tapes, which recorded the interrogations in 2002 of two operatives with Al Qaeda and were destroyed in 2005. C.I.A. officials have for years feared becoming entangled in a criminal investigation involving alleged improprieties in secret counterterrorism programs. Now, the investigation and a probable grand jury inquiry will scrutinize the actions of some of the highest-ranking current and former officials at the agency.


Godsofchaos January 3, 2008 6:48 am (Pacific time)

"Every member of Congress who ignores this matter will regret it someday."RICKA Why because the don't Impeach people that didn't break the law? Because so far no one has named plausible laws of the land that Cheney and Bush broke. The Logan Act came off to me as a lame grasping of straws. Bill Clinton at least lied under oath. "History will find them negligent."RICKA Depends who wins. The winners write in the history books. Personally,so far since no one has stated actual law of damnation, I think history will find this as a desperate play by the democrats to overrule the people.Bush won the election and the reelection yet liberals continue to act like he did not. "This impeachment is a defining issue for Democrats." For me it is. If they go ahead with this without any hard evidence then it will show that the Democratic party is wiling to make change in government.One where the President is nothing more than a figurehead and the will of Congress becomes all powerful over the executive branch.If they don't do what they want then they just impeach him and get a new guy in. "We must rise to this very right movement."RICKA Yes lets rise against 40% of the population while were at it lets have the second civil war in united states history because we all know how bloodless the first one was. "And others will eventually see it is Right to do."RICKA North and South thought this before going to the civil war. Almost everyone thinks this before going to war.This statement and the ideas behind it is the fuel for wars. "Democrats in Congress must stop being sensible and reasonable and easy to get along with."RICKA Yes because reason is a horrible thing to have in your government. While were at it lets turn the Middle East into a lump of glass since reason should be ignored. "the time for passion and defending the soul of our country has come."RICKA You obviously never studied the French Revolution. One of the most bloody times in human history. The reason is everyone had the same attitude as you. "Set immediate legisltative goals aside, risk criticizm."RICKA Then scare the 20% of undecideds in this nation.Only a Liberal thinks that destroying the executive branch in middle of war is a good thing do. "We will have the support of honest, democracy-spirited people here and around the world."RICKA More like are enemies. I don't think that the Middle East and Russia would be crying in their beer as the nation self destructed.


Neal Feldman January 3, 2008 6:07 am (Pacific time)

Godsofchaos - Which laws did Shrub violate? Lessee... there is violating his oath of office when they cherry-picked data to lie us into war in Iraq making statements publicly and officially that were untrue to the point he convinced 80% or so of the people that Iraq was associated with al qaeda and had a hand in 9-11, the violations of the Geneva conventions and other human rights violations, putting industry cronies in positions of government oversight of those industries to the detriment of public health and safety, the illegal warrantless wiretapping of US citizens, abuse of military personnel via the back door draft and other means, the outing of Valerie Plame as a CIA operative... there are others of course but these will do for starters. Ah well...


rogus January 3, 2008 4:58 am (Pacific time)

In a recent speech in Charlotteville VA Kucinich stated that war crimes don't have a statute of limitations and that Bush/Cheney could still face legal charges even when they are out of office. Guess that's why Bush bought that 100,000 acres in South American


Jeepers Creepers January 3, 2008 3:53 am (Pacific time)

The "Speaker of the House", Nancy Pelosi, was recently accused by Rep. Peter King (politician) as violating the "Logan Act". Read more.


RICKA January 2, 2008 10:20 pm (Pacific time)

Every member of Congress who ignores this matter will regret it someday. History will find them negligent. This impeachment is a defining issue for Democrats. We must rise to this very right movement. And others will eventually see it is Right to do. Democrats in Congress must stop being sensible and reasonable and easy to get along with. The time for passion and defending the soul of our country has come. Set immediate legisltative goals aside, risk criticizm. We will have the support of honest, democracy-spirited people here and around the world. The only outrage greater than Cheney's secretive, dishonest methods is the complacency of Congress. Don't talk, SHOUT to your congressmen and woman. TELL THEM HOW YOU FEEL> WE MUST BRING CHENEY DOWN!!!! We must hold a standard for honest, legal behaviour in our nation's highest offices. Cheney caused the unecessary death and maiming of hundreds of thousands of human beings. He is a willful, secretive man without soul or conscience. He must be reduced to the lowest place of our society. We are a modern, wise nation and deserve better in public service and governance!!


scobra January 2, 2008 5:36 pm (Pacific time)

fry em up. they seem to have no problem starting wars that kill thousands of innocent people. on top of that they have done little to hide their ignorances. i can t wat for the day when i dont have to hear about these horrible himan beings any longer.


Frances January 2, 2008 5:05 pm (Pacific time)

What in the world has taken so long for these hearings to begin? Not only should they begin, but there should be civil criminal charges in addition so this criminal never walks free again.


Godsofchaos January 2, 2008 9:40 pm (Pacific time)

The Logan Act, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953, states: Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply, himself or his agent, to any foreign government or the agents thereof for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects. The Logan Act was intended to prohibit United States citizens without authority from interfering in relations between the United States and foreign governments. There appear to have been no prosecutions under the Act in its more than 200 year history. However, there have been a number of judicial references to the Act, and it is not uncommon for it to be used as a point of challenge concerning dealings with foreign officials. Although attempts have been made to repeal the Act, it remains law and at least a potential sanction to be used against anyone who without authority interferes in the foreign relations of the United States. Sounds like citizens only to me.


Jeepers Creepers January 2, 2008 9:22 pm (Pacific time)

Godsofchaos, You trace his tracks. I will not spoon feed you. Again, you do not have to be a citizen. Do not skim wikibaby and then come up with a snappy answer.


Jeepers Creepers January 2, 2008 9:09 pm (Pacific time)

GodsofChaos If you had read the whole wikipedia, you would see that it does not only apply to citizens.


Godsofchaos January 2, 2008 9:04 pm (Pacific time)

"Hasn't Cheney violated the "Logan Act"?"Jeepers Creepers The Logan Act is a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. It was passed in 1799 and last amended in 1994. Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment of up to three years. The text of the Act is broad and is addressed at any attempt of a US citizen to conduct foreign relations without authority.In what way did Cheney violate this and how does this effect Bush?


Jeepers Creepers January 2, 2008 8:38 pm (Pacific time)

Hasn't Cheney violated the "Logan Act"?


Scab January 2, 2008 8:32 pm (Pacific time)

Tim King: Don't forget your information on Charles Schwab. Let's hear more! Let them have it! Go! Go! Go!


Godsofchaos January 2, 2008 8:22 pm (Pacific time)

"I certainly will indulge your questions if nobody else does, thanks."Tim King I would prefer you since it is your article. I just am a little annoyed with all this talk of impeachment that it still hasn't been stated which laws have been broken. So far all I have heard is personal attacks and accusations that are so vague that I can't believe it is even being questioned in Congress.


Tim King January 2, 2008 8:13 pm (Pacific time)

Godsofchaos: I'm going to attempt to defer this to others to fill in the answers to those questions, believe it or not I'm trying to keep my opinions out of it as much as possible. I certainly will indulge your questions if nobody else does, thanks.


Godsofchaos January 2, 2008 7:53 pm (Pacific time)

I have one question Tim King. Which law of the land did Bush violate? "There is credible evidence that the Vice President abused the power of his office, and not only brought us into an unnecessary war but violated the civil liberties and privacy of American citizens. It is the constitutional duty of Congress to hold impeachment hearings"Tim King Which civil liberties did he violate. I mean with all this talk on impeachment I am surprised that the accusations on Bush has been kept vauge. At lest the media reported what Bill Clinton was forced to stand trial for.


Bert January 2, 2008 7:17 pm (Pacific time)

Ref. above, HR 333= HR 799 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_House_Resolution_333 you have two websites running petitions for impeachment, one is www.wexlerwantshearings.com, the other is www.impeachbush.org


The American Illuminati January 2, 2008 6:33 pm (Pacific time)

Why don't you come Canada and put some people in jail here instead. I'll help you.


Jeff Stu January 2, 2008 4:43 pm (Pacific time)

I agree, America should be calling for these guys to be tried for war crimes. Problem is it makes American's feel it makes you look weak attacking the men who are your leaders. America has been led to believe no matter what the lies or tragic events, you are either with these S.O.B.s's or your a terrorist. It's very psychological.


Paris January 2, 2008 4:36 pm (Pacific time)

Impeach and imprison both - no pardons. I fear Hillary will win the election on the part of the Bill-Clinton-Bush-Sr bond, and subsequent dirty connections to election fraud - and somehow Bush Jr would be pardoned as a result. And in a strange way, it's too bad Cheney has a foot already in the grave, because he should be miserable and behind bars for as long as possible before his eventual and final heart attack. Perhaps karma will play a hand in the he'll be a vegetable like Terry Schiavo (wait, isn't he already kind of like a vegetable??) and maybe some ring wing nuts will come along and prevent the plug from being pulled for some pro-life reasons. Now, wouldn't that be strange justice? If Cheney believes in an afterlife, I don't know how he sleeps through the night. But on the other hand, if he was an existentialist, maybe none of these last 8 years would have happened the way they happened. It boggles the mind. Either way, the should start manufacturing "Imprison Bush and Cheney 2008" bumper stickers.


robert lockwood mills January 2, 2008 4:28 pm (Pacific time)

Americans shake their head in wonder at how a man could be impeached for lying about a blow job, but another hasn't been impeached for manipulating intelligence to start a war, spying on Americans in violation of the law, and outing a C.I.A. operative for political reasons.


Sparky January 2, 2008 4:23 pm (Pacific time)

don't drop the ball keep it moving


steve j winslow January 2, 2008 4:12 pm (Pacific time)

THANK YOU FOR PUBLISHING THIS STORY! IT IS THE STORY OF THIS CENTURY, THE LAST, AND THE ONE TO COME! FINALLY WE HEAR FROM THE MEDIA! THANK YOU AND THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO SUPPORTS IMPEACHMENT!


Henry Ruark January 2, 2008 4:11 pm (Pacific time)

isug et al: Agree intensely with your point, but insist on expanding it to demand NOW from each Presidential candidate clear and on-record statement of where he/she stands, and what action he/she pledges to take.


Tom Thumb January 2, 2008 3:31 pm (Pacific time)

Could someone please be sure to videotape Uncle Dick and the Chimperor as their signature smirks disappear? Hmmm? This will enable us to replay it later at our leisure.


isuggest January 2, 2008 3:18 pm (Pacific time)

Some say that, since an election is coming up, we should just wait and do nothing. I think that it is particularly important to act now so that future leaders will know that, once they take the oath of office, they will be expected to honor the rule of law.


Anonymous January 2, 2008 1:09 pm (Pacific time)

For (usually) up-to-date info on the H Res 333 / H Res 799, see the Wikipedia page on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_House_Resolution_333 It has a lot of handy links for further information.


accountability January 2, 2008 2:08 pm (Pacific time)

Please sign the petition and send to everyone you know! http://www.wexlerwantshearings.com "The charges are too serious to ignore"


lickbush January 2, 2008 1:03 pm (Pacific time)

Copy and paste this whole line of comments and send it to Conyers and Pelosi Tap foot for a Republican


Steve January 2, 2008 12:31 pm (Pacific time)

Every American who supports the impeachment of this Dick Cheney should sign Wexler's petition. The website is www.wexlerwantshearings.com. Wexler plans on going to the the head of the judiciary in mid January to push for impeachment hearings. By adding your signature you are helping to make a difference. Let's take our country back! Thank you Congressman Wexler.


On the name of the bill: January 2, 2008 11:44 am (Pacific time)

Here's the info on the actual bill H Res 799: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=hr110-799


rjones2818 January 2, 2008 11:43 am (Pacific time)

On the bill's name: It's actually H Res 799. H Res 333 was the original bill, but when Dennis brought it up on the floor and it was sent to committee, it got a new number, ie H Res 799.

Thank you for adding that.


Henry Ruark January 2, 2008 11:41 am (Pacific time)

To all: Where, in Heaven's Name (as any one of the Founders might have stated !) does this leave Reagan (and Bush I) AND Oliver North -now anointed by some as "hero" despite conviction on Iran-Contra...latter surely ties to Bush II and current situation now so clearly seen as demanding impeachment.


GreatArchitect January 2, 2008 11:18 am (Pacific time)

Cheney is a douchebag who should be dragged through the streets and pelted with feces. He's even got an official 'Choad File' at the Choad Network.


A~ January 2, 2008 11:13 am (Pacific time)

Cheney, Bush, et all are war criminals. They should be charged as such. They should be impeached and put behind bars. And what hypocrites we have in both parties? On the republican side we have those who went after BC because they just hated him (morals this and morals that - while at the same time they were being immoral). And the democratic "leadership" who don't want to lead. God help us all. A~


chabuka January 2, 2008 10:59 am (Pacific time)

The DLC is on the wrong side of this issue...not proceeding with impeachment hearings is dereliction of duty and none of them are fit to hold office if they will not protect the Constitution


Mark Cartwright January 2, 2008 10:59 am (Pacific time)

We know the GOP will not protect our Constitution, as power and greed are the altar they worship at. What's also profoundly sad, is that many others in the Dem Party have allowed their duties to The People corrupted by the same evil.


Dan January 2, 2008 10:34 am (Pacific time)

More than impeach, the charges should include war crimes... Once convicted by the Senate, he cannot be pardoned by the President and he should be tried for war crimes by criminal court.


Joe January 2, 2008 9:49 am (Pacific time)

I think you got the bill's number wrong. It's HR 333, no HR 799.

Editor: Thank you Joe for clarifying that, the story has been corrected, we appreciate it.


Anonymous January 2, 2008 9:35 am (Pacific time)

congres can go to hell for ehat they are worth


captain bly January 2, 2008 9:30 am (Pacific time)

How long will congress pussy foot around this business. The country has two flat tires on a trip not complete. The longer we continue to drive the more difficult and costly the entire repair will ultimately become.


L. Thomas January 2, 2008 9:17 am (Pacific time)

Yes, by all means! This can and should move forward, lest we leave the deliberate, wanton exposure of a covert CIA Officer for political gain, go unpunished at the highest level. Ironically, this was about the attempt to protect from exposure, the whole pack of Iraq-Yellowcake LIES! The VP's primary subordinate (I. Libby) has already been tried and convicted - and Irving Libby was clearly being directed in his crime by Vice President Richard Cheney.


cyni-gal January 2, 2008 8:45 am (Pacific time)

House leaders and the leading Dem candidates don't support impeachment because of "expense". What about all the money going to the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq? "business of politics might grind to a halt." That would be a GOOD thing! Bring it to a HALT!


WorriedCitizen January 2, 2008 8:28 am (Pacific time)

Thank you Wexler. God bless you and good luck. I really wish certain congressmen would quit comparing "a sex act with a White House intern" to "high crimes and misdemeanors under our constitution" done by this administration. It seems that their viewpoints have been seriously skewed. To me, "This is why Americans shake their head in wonder about the priorities of this Congress".


Fronkensteen January 2, 2008 8:24 am (Pacific time)

How dare anyone compare what that idiot clitton did to what these war criminals bush et al are doing. IMPEACH THESE BASTARDS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Broken January 2, 2008 3:32 am (Pacific time)

all the way, lets us give back america back to the amiercans, and redo what our founding fathers had invision..


Vic January 2, 2008 7:31 am (Pacific time)

Ooops.....Cheney, not Bheney


Henry Ruark January 2, 2008 7:31 am (Pacific time)

We should glory in the fully demonstrated prescience of our Founding Fathers, who so designed our then-republic that the governance system contains remedial measures for precisely this level and kind of attack from within. In the Cheney record, there are two distinct cycles of such activities, starting with Bush I and continuing on with more while pulling complex control-strings for Bush II. The wit, wisdom and will of all of us, still resident in what is left remaining of that world-shaking democratic concept set into place by the Founders after long but very civilized dialog, demands this action to prevent further deterioration into fascistic goverance inevitably leading on to a return to feudalism --and that's where the Founders began !! Thus we now can see the real necessity for more than another simple "tea party" to get the demanded job done.


Vic January 2, 2008 7:31 am (Pacific time)

Bheney should be impeached, investigated, indicted and given a fair trial, then HUNG.


LanceCiepiela January 2, 2008 7:29 am (Pacific time)

Concerned citizens who wish to sign a petition urging the Judiciary Committee to schedule hearings can access the website: www.WexlerWantsHearings.com. The House Judiciary Committee can also be reached by phone (202)225-3951.

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