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Murder in Afghanistan

Army Staff Sgt. Robert Bales named as suspect in Afghanistan massacre.

Staff Sgt. Robert Bales, left, in Fort Irwin, CA 2011. (United States Army)
Staff Sgt. Robert Bales, left, in Fort Irwin, CA 2011. (U.S. Army)

(MELBOURNE) - The revelation of Sgt. Bales’ identity comes (The Lookout) after criticism from Afghan President Hamid Karzai about the lack of U.S. cooperation in investigating the massacre. Karzai also questioned whether just one American soldier was involved.

I guess the Sgt. Bales identity has broken and is all over the web and Front Pages by now. (This Ain’t Hell)

This is a massive coverup for negligent failure of leadership, and an attempt to hide a major control and command problem in a runaway renegade Army which is operating on the verge of “out of control” and “out of command.”

In his exchange with President Obama, President Karzai mentions that Obama asked him whether he had “seen the video.” “The Video” which the US Army claims came from the security cameras at the “Fort” showing evidence of the “lone, single perpetrator of the murders” surrendering with his hands in the air to the sentries as he returned to the gate.

As if it proved anything, Karzai responded by questioning the legitimacy of the video as a forgery or staged video.

He said, and I paraphrase, that when he asserted to Obama that he had evidence that more than one man did the jobs, that Obama became upset, impatient and terse with him, and belligerently asked had he not seen “the evidence” (of the one man scenario) in the security video from the CCTV cameras at the gate, to which he replied, “You mean the alleged video?”

It is unlikely that anyone in the general public will ever see the video inasmuch as every time the US or Israel has tried to use videos to prove an event they have always fallen apart under technological examination as forgeries. And, you can wager that, if you ever get to see this one, the features of the “individual” will be too obscure to make positive identity possible.

Against this “evidence,” Karzai has the testimony of a large number of people who were witnesses at the scene of the murders.

Honestly, I would believe any Afghan, however incredible his story, before I would believe anything uttered by a lackey of the DOD or the IDF for that matter. It is a case of proven liars versus innocent victims.

Afghan leader blasts US over probe into shootings

By AMIR SHAH, Associated Press

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Warning he’s at the “end of the rope” over civilian casualties, Afghanistan’s president angrily accused the U.S. on Friday of not sharing information about how an American soldier allegedly shot and killed 16 Afghans in two villages.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai listens to speeches of a family member,unseen, of Afghan civilians who were killed Sunday by a US soldier in Panjwai in Kandahar province at the presidential palace in Kabul, Afghanistan, Friday, March 16, 2012. Afghan President Hamid Karzai lashed out at the United States on Friday, saying he is at the “the end of the rope” because of the lack of U.S. cooperation into a probe of a killing spree allegedly carried out by an American soldier. (AP Photo/Ahmad Jamshid)

The incident has reverberated through the already complicated relations between the U.S. and Afghanistan, endangering talks over a long-term relationship after most U.S. and NATO combat troops withdraw by the end of 2014.

In an emotional meeting with relatives of the shooting victims, Karzai said the villagers’ accounts of the massacre were widely different from the scenario depicted by U.S. military officials. The relatives and villagers insisted that it was impossible for one gunmen to kill nine children, four men and three women in three houses of two villages near a U.S. combat outpost in southern Afghanistan.

Karzai pointed to one of the villagers from Panjwai district of Kandahar province and said:

“In his family, in four rooms people were killed — children and women were killed — and then they were all brought together in one room and then set on fire. That, one man cannot do.”

Karzai said the delegation he sent to Kandahar province to investigate the shootings did not receive the expected cooperation from the United States. He said many questions remained about what occurred, and he would be raising the questions with the U.S. military “very loudly.”

The U.S. military had no comment on Karzai’s remarks.

Read the full report here: The Salt Lake Tribune

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Special thanks to MyCatBirdSeat.com


About the author: Debbie Menon is a freelance writer based in Dubai. Her articles have been featured in several print and online publications. She can be reached at: debbiemenon@gmail.com




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Anonymous March 18, 2012 9:07 pm (Pacific time)

A sad situation for both sides, considering the many soldiers who left their life and limps, and the many Iraqi and Afghan civilians caught in the middle of a conflict they did not create. War is a dirty business for those in power.


Bob Gallagher March 17, 2012 7:06 pm (Pacific time)

The article's author says she would believe an Afghan terrorist ("any Afghan") before she would believe any honorable US soldier or Marine ("DoD lackeys").  That's some anti-military hate right there.  There are thousands of people serving overseas at this very moment.  One of them, this guy named Bales, went bonkers and murdered a bunch of people.  It has nothing to do with the voodoo of PTSD.  If it did, those other "sufferers" would be gunning people down also.  It has nothing to do with this soldier's family, or his chain of command, or all the pixie stix he ate as a child.  This is a lone nut who committed crimes for which he should now be punished.  Put away the tin-foil hats and push yourself away from the liberal "everyone is a victim" dinner table.  SSG Bales is not a "victim".  He is a murderer and there is no excuse for his actions.  He needs to be held accountable.  He enlisted by choice.  He re-enlisted by choice.  Mulitple deployments are part of military life and if you don't like it, get a job at the DMV.  People are lining up to make excuses for this guy and there are none.  Personal responsibility....personal accountability.  Get some.


Anonymous March 17, 2012 6:04 pm (Pacific time)

Amanda it is on Obama, he is CIC, and has been for over 3 years. Just recall all those campaign promises, and the main one to me and our congressmen as per their comments, is that all bills before his signature would be on the internet for at least 5 days. That includes money bills to fund these wars, which he signed. As per Bush, the majority of Congress, which includes both major parties gave him the green light. It was also the democrats during the Clinton Admin. who called for removing Saddam, which was by force. As per WMD, then go ask the thousands of dead gassed Kurds, and Iranian military if they felt they died via WMD's? That would be in the affirmative. The only way we save more people in the future is to remove Obama, for more Americans have been killed under his policies in Afghanistan in 3 years than all those killed in the nearly 8 years under Bush. The enemy has no respect for weakness, and Obama and his staff are weak, on all levels. He is not running on his record, he is simply slinging mud, and he will be covered in that mud.


AmandaBlack March 17, 2012 4:27 pm (Pacific time)

It confirms, that the military does not acknowlege Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), or many, maybe too many men in Uniform, would be medically discharged, instead of subject to countless redeployments. Leave Obama out of the critique, he did not start the war in Iraq or Afghanistan. He did not make make everyone believe in "Weapons of Mass Destruction" as a reason to go to war.


Anonymous March 17, 2012 9:04 am (Pacific time)

Look at our so called leader Obama. No leadership, bad influence on the troops, hate the Military, destroys the Military, makes the Military the aughing ztock of the world. I blame Obama and his puppet Generals. Instead of caring about the troops amnd support them they kill them. The troops know that they are in love with the terrorists and dont care about the troops moral. I pray for the family of the soldier. Obama and his Generals are the real killers. Lets prosecute them.

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