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A Mother Does Not Forget Her Children: First March on Washington for Mothers of Lost Children

A nation is not conquered until the hearts of its women are on the ground. Then it is done, no matter how brave its warriors, nor how strong their weapons. - Cheyenne Proverb

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Coral and her son, friend and supporter, Aaron Warner - the one who got away. Aaron escaped his abusive father by leaving our home in 1995, while I was seeking safety and legal help for myself and my children in Oregon. My attempts in seeking safety for my children failed.

(SALEM, Ore.) - Mothers of Lost Children http://mothers-of-lost-children.com and their supporters are gathering at Lafayette Park, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington D.C., in front of the White House for a silent vigil to protest the grotesque human rights abuses against children by family courts.  Sunday marks the first March on Washington for Mothers of Lost Children.

President Barack Obama will be presented a booklet that includes numerous stories of loving mothers who have lost custody of their children in America's courts.  My own story is included in this booklet. (1)

Oprah Winfrey often states on her program, "America is the safest place in the world for women."  Tens of thousands of mothers in America would be quick to disagree with Oprah's words.  We bear invisible, but permanent battle wounds from years of abuse in America's family court system.  Our mental scars and years of court documentation prove that seeking safety in America often costs more than money.  The price of safety in America has been too high for all of us - it cost our children and our right to be a mother. 

Seventy-five percent of mothers who seek safety from abuse in America will lose custody and permanent contact with their children, especially if they have reported criminal acts of abuse in their homes. 

Experts at the Leadership Council on Child Abuse and Interpersonal Violence estimate that more than 58,000 children each year are either placed into dangerous homes or forced to go on unsupervised visits with their alleged abusers by divorce courts that simultaneously deny the children's safe, protective parents access to their sexually and physically abused children. 
Many battered mothers who have lost custody of their children will end up homeless due to the ongoing court abuse they are subjected to in America.  I know this to be true, as I was homeless, too, due to my ex-husband, Mr. Marty Warner, legally stalking me in Oregon's courtrooms for the past decade, i.e., forty-two court related hearings related to my divorce since 1996.
 
Unfortunately, even though being aware of this epidemic, talk show hosts and the general news media refuse to address this topic.  The court trauma and abuse continues in my life as well as for thousands of mothers in the United States.  I often wonder "Does America hate mothers?"   (Exception:  See Tim King's numerous news articles on this epidemic at Salem-News.com from 2007 -2010) 

 
Many women grow up in homes in which they were conditioned and groomed to be victims.  They marry sociopathic abusers, have children with them, and lose custody and/or contact of their children when they become stronger and break away.  
 
"When woman is brought before our man courts, and our man juries, and has no bruises, or wounds, or marks of violence upon her person to show as a ground of her complaint, it is hard for them to realize that she has a cause of appeal to them for protection:  while at the same time her whole physical system may be writhing in agony from spirit wrongs, such as can only be understood by peers."    - Elizabeth Parsons Ware Packard  

 
Author and advocate, Elizabeth Packard, wrote the above paragraph 132 years ago in her true life story and book The Prisoners Hidden Life or Insane Asylums Revealed (1868).  Elizabeth Packard was unjustly incarcerated in an insane asylum in the 1860s, because she didn't hold the same ideology and beliefs as her legalistic, Christian husband.)    http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Packard

 
Elizabeth Packard came out on the other side better than I did, since she was set free from her oppressor by the courts, and retained the support of her children.  After reviewing her story, it is my opinion that the courts and religious systems have both regressed over the past 100 plus years.
 

Nothing, nothing prepared me for the horrors that tens of thousands of women, including myself, experience in America's family court system.  http://www.ncadv.org/files/Bonshea.php

"Most batterers know they can bring criminal and contempt charges at no expense to the abusers, but they take an enormous financial and emotional cost on their victims. The result is that many abusive men drag on the litigation and file spurious claims openly acknowledging they are trying to drive their victims onto welfare or into homelessness; half of all homeless women and children in the U.S. are homeless because of domestic violence.

"When courts blame victims and fail to hold abusers accountable, they reinforce abuser behavior, subvert justice, disempower the victims, teach children that abusive behavior is permissible and may even be rewarded, and reinforce the cycle of violence.  - Joan Zorza, Esq.  Read Joan Zorza's entire article "Batterer Manipulation and Retaliation, Denial and Complexity in the Family Court" http://angelzfury.blogspot.com/.../batterer-manipulation-and-retaliation_14.html

"Today, the men as a body politic have power over women. They decide how women will suffer: which sadistic acts against the bodies of women will be construed to be 'normal.'" - Andrea Dworkin

Charles Pragnel, Child/Family advocate writes, "The law in the U.S.A. and its implementation by the Courts represents the will and the wishes of the people of America.

It is important therefore that every American is aware of what is happening in their name.

"Yet, while politicians are rightly condemning human rights abuses in foreign countries, they are blind to or are ignoring the human rights abuses of America’s children which are occurring daily in the Family Courts of America.

"These abuses of the Rights of children are their rights to be protected from abuse and exploitation and their right to have their views taken into account and given considerable weighting, when decisions are being taken regarding their future lives."

Mothers of Missing Children


I lost custody of my eight children, including my nursing infant, 14 years ago, per a court order signed by Judge Albin Norblad, http://www.publications.ojd.state.or.us/S48522.htm on March 10, 1996, in Polk County, Dallas, Oregon. 
 
William Styron, in his book, Sophie's Choice, expresses some of my spiritual and emotional feelings concerning the loss of my children.  He writes, "What Sophie is forced to do is not a choice at all, but is instead a torture without rational foundation, and her experience permanently and irrevocably erodes her sanity and her ability to continue living."
 
A few summers ago, I watched the news of two missing boys http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=2358844n who were found and returned to their families.  My heart was filled with gladness for the parents.  I wept while watching their reunion as I know and understand the anguish of losing a child. I thought about the "missing children in my life."  I have not had visitation privileges in 12 years or the right to send them gifts or correspond with them.  I know where they are and who they live with, but there are no search and rescue teams, police, sheriffs, FBI or other state, government agencies, church groups who care to assist the parent and child in reuniting. 
 
Society accepted the circumstances that I and thousands of mothers have been forced to survive as “normal."  Some of those who have deep legalistic religious persuasion http://www.bridgeportcommunitychapel.com believe that the cruelty and injustices I have experienced are God’s way of punishing me for seeking safety and divorcing my abusive ex husband, Mr. Marty Warner. 
 
One attorney informed me I would need one million dollars for attorney fees in order to ever have contact with my children again.  For the right to love and see my children, monies would be needed for legal fees due to my ex husband's legal stalking and ongoing battles in court. 

I realize I live in a very sick and twisted society and it hurts.  
I find it ironic that America is involved in two wars in the Middle East, and insists that they are improving the women's lives in Iraq and Afghanistan, while the hearts of tens of thousands of America's mothers are laying on the ground.


 Children are Sacred Beings - Not Pawns to be Abused by Family Courts

 By the time my children are young adults, the intense brainwashing and proselytizing that they have been subjected to has left its mark.  They do not want anything to do with me, the one who sought safety for them years ago.  I do not blame them for their feelings of indifference toward me.  Many children who live with their abusers suffer from Stockholm Syndrome http://web2.airmail.net/ktrig246/out_of_cave/sss.html.  Except for my older son, Aaron, I do not hear from any of my older children on Mother's Day or any other time of the year. 

Their pastors and school teachers have, unfortunately, encouraged their hatred and intolerance of me.  (Please listen to my mantra by Holly Near, I'm Not Afraid http://hollynear.com/media/mp3s/i.ain't.afraid.mp3 

The price for my own safety and freedom was an imposed, unnatural and unwanted separation from my eight children.  The injustice committed against me is not just the physical separation from my children, but the willful desecration of the mother-child relationship and bond, a sacred spiritual and emotional entity.

Forcibly taking a mother's children, and then controlling her emotionally by withholding contact must be publicly recognized as one of the greatest forms of 'mis-use' of the American justice system and one of the the greatest hidden vehicles for wide-spread socially approved physical and emotional abuse and control.

Dr. Clarissa Estes writes, 'A culture that requires harm to one's soul in order to follow the culture's proscriptions is a very sick culture indeed.'  I think this is true.  By obeying the Order of the Court, I betrayed my soul, my children and myself.  I was forced to make a choice that no mother should ever be forced to make.

The last few years, I have found some comfort connecting with support groups i.e, Mothers of Lost Children http://mothers-of-lost-children.com ," Dr. Maureen Hannah, Chair for the Battered Mother's Custody Conference, http://www.batteredmotherscustodyconference.org/, Claudine Dombrowski, http://www.angelfury.org/, Stop Family Violence, http:stopfamilyviolence.org, and Liz Argate, Esq., http://thelizlibrary.org.

There are numerous excellent sites that promote healing, enlightenment and awareness of abuse and exploitation.  One of my favorites sites is Sanctuary for the Abused http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com/   The internet is connecting many mothers who have been battered and abused in America's family court system.  Their voices are strong and loud.

Unless we speak out against the injustices in our society, we become accomplices to the individuals and institutions that are an obstacle to women and children's wholeness, safety and wellness.

Our judicial system is a product of the community we live in.  The courts represent the prevalent views regarding women and children in our communities.  Their judgments are a reflection of the patriarchal religious structure of this country today.  The judges are the instruments of the local community "seizing the moment of power" that has been given to them.  Although many people were appalled and shocked by the removal of my nursing baby per Court Order, the community stood by, watched and did nothing.

I hope and pray President Barack Obama and Vice-President Joe Biden will not only listen to us, but that they will hear us and take action. 

"Sentinent without action is the ruin of the soul." - Edward Abbey

A judge's signature on a white sheet of paper can be a shattering experience for an individual.  I believe judges in America will continue to use their absolute power until people wake up from their "huddled fear."  When society responds from a higher state of consciousness spiritually and emotionally, they will desire a justice system that uses emotional and intuitive energy. 

Until then, our judicial system is best described by the slogan, "America - where the criminal is protected and the victim harassed."

(1) Battered Mothers Take Custody Battles to White House

  

Suggested reading:

Upon completion of writing this article, I received a beautiful Mother's Day gift in the mail.  Dr. Mo Therese Hannah sent me her newly published book she co-authored with Barry Goldstein, J.D.,  Domestic Violence, Abuse, and Child Custody:  Legal Strategies and Policy Issues, published by Civic Research Institute, Inc., Kingston, New Jersey, Copyright 2010, ISBN 1-887554-76-9

http://www.civicresearchinstitute.com/dvac.html

http://www.domesticviolenceabuseandchildcustody.com/#

 

“This comprehensive book is a gift to the cause of justice not only for victimized women and children but for anyone who cares about the integrity of law itself. The American legal system has for too long facilitated the very violence it purports to forbid, often allowing abusive men to use the courts to punish women and children who speak out against child sexual abuse and domestic violence. Mo Hannah and Barry Goldstein have created a desperately needed manual that will empower generations of victims to fight back. My favorite section is the one that reminds us of the obvious: 'Therapy is Not the Answer' to violence. The stories of injustice in this book will shock you, and make you cry--but keep reading. Abusers are hoping you won't pay attention because it will be too painful.  Prove them wrong by reading this book again and again and again--and share it with everyone who needs to know the truth.” - Wendy Murphy, JD, New England Law-Boston; author of And Justice For Some

I met Dr. Mo Therese Hannah, my friend and fellow supporter, through the publication of Tim King's Mother's Day article on my life story, May 12, 2007.  Please read Dr. Hannah's review of BONSHEA:  Making Light of the Dark at http://amazon.com  

 

Woman, Church and State:  A Historical Account of the Status of Woman Through the Christian Ages with Reminiscences of the Matriarchate by Matilda Joslyn Gage, 1893, reprinted by Arno Press Inc, 1972

 
"The scope, breadth, depth, and powerful, no-holdsbarred writing style make Woman, Church, and State my favorite book of all that I have reviewed. It has taken academia, and only the most radical, feminist pockets of academia at that, 100 years to catch up with Gage.  If this work was published today, it would be considered radical. As I read this work, I laughed, I cried, and I grew angry. You cannot walk away from this work without having strong emotions - whether positive or negative, for good or bad, is for you to say. Many of the ideas that it contains are I at first considered too radical. But, often, after some reflection, I had to admit that she spoke the truth.

 
I urge everyone to read Gage's Woman, Church, and State in its entirety.  http://www.pinn.net/~sunshine/gage/mjg.html

"Peace is Loud" - Pray the Devil Back to Hell  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxEvsj80fsE.

(1) NEWS ARTICLES at Salem-News.com on Coral Anika Theill's life and published book, BONSHEA.

May 12, 2007: Abuse Under the Watch of Oregon's Justice System - Tim King Salem-News.com

Nov. 28, 2007: Marital Rape and Abuse Victim Seeks Justice from Oregon Governor - Tim King Salem-News.com

Nov. 29, 2007: Welcome to Oregon: Land of Domestic Abuse Endorsement - Tim King Salem-News.com

May 30, 2008: What Abuse Survivors Expect from the Portland Crime Victims Conference - Tim King Salem-News.com

May 10, 2009: Oregon Should Consider Coral Theill on Mother's Day - Tim King Salem-News.com Feb. 26, 2010: "The Gift of Healing is Our Birthright - What an Advocate Looks Like" - Coral Anika Theill Special to Salem-News.com

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 Coral Anika Theill, advocate and survivor is author of "BONSHEA: Making Light of the Dark."  Her book and articles have encouraged and inspired numerous trauma victims and wounded Marines/soldiers recovering from PTSD.  Coral's positive insights as a survivor have also earned the respect of clinical therapists, advocates, attorneys, professors and authors. Coral Theill believes a great deal of information exists for survivors. See: 'The Gift of Healing is Our Birthright - What an Advocate Looks Like' - Coral Anika Theill for Salem-News.com.

Coral Anika Theill’s published book, BONSHEA, has been used as a college text for nursing students at Linfield College. BONSHEA: Making Light of the Dark by Coral Anika Theill can be ordered at: iuniverse.com, barnesandnoble.com or amazon.com.  Read 12 five star reviews at: barnesandnoble.com  Email Coral Theill at: coraltheill@hotmail.com


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Leslie July 28, 2011 11:18 am (Pacific time)

SC does not care about the well-being of children either! I have been through two inept attorneys and am currently still trying to "fix" the problems with the Order, not to mention the 2nd one ruined my chances of having the case re_heard. The original Judge developed pancreatic cancer and another Judge came in and signed the very one-sided Order! it's been 5 years since our divorce and I've been more emotionally abused since than I was before! My two minor children are 700 miles away with him and his mother and I have no one to help. Every place I've turned in SC has either ignored, not taken me seriously, or presumed me to be the "crazy" one! No one in the legal system really really listens when you have no real physical signs of abuse!! They won't even listen to the children!


Anonymous July 24, 2011 9:02 am (Pacific time)

it has to stop . why don't we ever hear from our reporter's how it is manipulated and falsely reported and done in the court room's why don't we ever hear how the children are controlled and drugged from out state funded school's counselors psychiatrist and social service's and attorney's that do this why don't the public really now how all this is done and how abusive it is on a child and their entire family People that feel this is human should have to live it their view on our American government would differently change. It is child abuse in the worse offense when the system does it because no one is going to protect you are they are know they have a new scimm that will convenience the public they they have resources for help with state paid attorney's for the mother just another diversity for the system to continue this violation and abuse on human life in the most innocent form of a child and their family. Kidnapping is a federal offense and our court room's now just how to play game sense it is their law's to make it appear like you agreed to something that you actually did not or did not do willing. Our Court system's are far from honest now it is a shame that we can not trust the place that is suppose to want the whole truth and nothing but the truth, while a lot of attorney's and state paid personal may be happy because of this our generation of young and children and family's are suffering tremendously in silence about this every day of their life.


samantha Benavides July 19, 2011 12:49 am (Pacific time)

Thank you so much!!! I thought I was all alone. I married two physically and psychologically abusive men who made sure I lost my four children. Even after I survived losing them once. Ten years later, He set me up and ripped them again from my life, Wyoming courts DO NOT CARE about abuse against women!!They had pictures of his hand prints around my neck and still gave him custody, and threw me on the street with nothing and no one. Everyday I grieve, and pray that things will change. But, with no real money or a good lawyer, hope seems very, far from that.


JANICE CURRIE June 30, 2011 4:05 pm (Pacific time)

HERE IN PORTLAND OREGON THERE A MISSING 14 YR OLD CHILD GONE FROM HER MOTHERS ARMS, WE NEED HELP BRINGING HER HOME. WE MUST STOP ALL THIS PAIN!!! HELP


JANICE CURRIE June 30, 2011 4:03 pm (Pacific time)

HERE IN PORTLAND OREGON THERE A MISSING 14 YR OLD CHILD GONE FROM HER MOTHERS ARMS, WE NEED HELP BRINGING HER HOME. WE MUST STOP ALL THIS PAIN!!!


Glenda Lundak May 8, 2011 5:33 pm (Pacific time)

I recently surrendered my 2 children. I lost. After growing up in a very abusive home I had 2 children with an abuser.I tried at times even to reconcile so that I could keep my children and keep off the street. I lost my money, many jobs. One abuse after another from the system.I had an abusive ex and an even more abusive mother. They formed together against me at times and at other times they were against each other. Finally I got real sick with anxiety and panic attacks. I gave the 15 year old to my mother who at this point was turning against me. My mother is demonic and seemed to have gotten some kind of hold on her. I gave my son to his drug addict father, he was only 7. I hope to get my mental health back enough to sell my house, pack it up, and go where they are not. If I had known this I never would have even had children.I lost them to the abusers.My mother worth 3 million, my ex $80,000 a year, me unable to work. You do the math. NO JUSTICE DOWN AT THE JUSTICE CENTER.


Brandy Watson February 14, 2011 2:19 am (Pacific time)

I also feel the pain of losing 4 children to cps... I will not get to see them till they are 18.. The pain is there but i try not to think about it... but when i look into my 2 youngest children eyes I do have custody of it hurts me to think about them..


mildred johnson August 31, 2010 12:36 pm (Pacific time)

I lost my daughter to her teacher in new jersey in 1976. I found her in 1999.  The state refused to investigate her or the teacher.  My daughter was learning disabled and 8 years old. She is being "used" by the teacher; she is "brainwashed" and refused contact.  I searched for 22 years, her s.s.# was changed, and she was relocated to another state.
Editor: Mildred, this is very alarming to learn.  Please send me an email at tim@salem-news.com and I will try to help.  Thanks,
Tim King


Theresa August 19, 2010 8:21 pm (Pacific time)

I lost custody of my three children in the Oregon Court System. I was a stay-at-home mother who was taken off of all accounts, so my husband could take over $260,000 and pay a law firm by the name of Meyer and Wyse to harass me and commit numerous legal and ethical violations towards me and my family. My ex placed property in others names and his firm was well aware of it. They told me I was "paranoid" when I told the court my husband and I owned certain property. They even went so far as to attempt to put an attorney lien on my home. My husband hired investigators and followed me around with the help of his attorneys. He even hired a custody evaluator who had socialized with my attorney's firm. The custody evaluator went against me and the judge followed his recommendation eventhough there were over 85 inaccuracies in his report. I am a teacher and all of my friends know I am a caring, nurturing, and loving mother. I appealed my case and it was affirmed. I really want to make our justice system aware of abysses activities and how they are affecting the development of our children when they give custody to an abuser. I am on board to support any legislation stopping abusers from gaining custody.


another mother's friend August 15, 2010 4:23 pm (Pacific time)

A similar thing just happened in Gainsville TX. The abusive husband had 3 "HIGH_POWER" lawyer. The mother's laywer wasn't prepared for the fight and lost a 2,3 and 5 year old. The mother had always cared for the children and payed all the bills. Didn't think this could happen in america!!!!


Coral Anika Theill May 22, 2010 12:10 am (Pacific time)

Dear Victoria and Michelle, Here are two articles that may interest you: The Gift of Healing is Our Birthright - What an Advocate Looks Like http://www.salem-news.com/articles/february262010/recovery_ct.php I was at the Silent Vigil at the White House on Mother's Day, May 9, 2010, for Mother's of Lost Children. SILENT VIGIL AT WHITE HOUSE: Mothers of Lost Children May 10, 2010 http://www.salem-news.com/articles/may102010/lost-children-ct.php My thoughts and prayers go out to you and all those who have suffered injustice in America and around the world.


Coral Anika Theill May 22, 2010 12:03 am (Pacific time)

Dear Victoria, Thanks for your comment. I am not really a member of any movement other than a voice speaking out for human rights for all. I am so sorry to hear about your loss. Here is a film that exposes MATRICIDE in America's Family Courts. Many children and women have been killed due to the court's negligence. Tens of thousands of loving mothers have lost permanent custody and contact with their children through the abuse of power of corrupt judges. This film may trigger some individuals emotionally. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxRm7_faGto


Victoria Dickinson May 21, 2010 2:38 pm (Pacific time)

5/21/10 Dear Coral, OMG, and Thank you SO much for restoring my faith in our group and movement! Thank you!! We are totally of like-mind! Coral, I have NOT seen my only child, my son, now for the past 18 years ... this Sept. he'll be 21 (going on 14, of course from all of the multiple abuse he's suffered at the hands of "them"). I don't any longer "know anything" about my son. The last time I heard his voice was 3 years ago for .10 seconds, when I called at Thanksgiving. Then he sounded high-as-a-kite ... All I do know is that he's still somewhere in the Poway/San Diego, CA area ... Thank you for every word you wrote and quoted. You've expressed every single feeling of mine over these last 18 years. I manage only by "just-not-going-there" as much as I possibly can ... but, naturally, my son is ALWAYS just below my surface skin ... ALWAYS ... Much love, and admiration, Victoria Portland, ME


Michelle Parks May 20, 2010 1:23 pm (Pacific time)

I am a mother and my ex has put me on child support and will not let me have any access to my children at all i have been going through this with his mom for three years i would love for anyone who can hep me to please contact me michellefparks1983@yahoo.com


Dr. Mo Hannah May 17, 2010 4:48 am (Pacific time)

What Coral reports here is echoed by thousands of other mothers across the U.S. and in other countries as well. This is matricide. This must STOP.


Earl Richards May 12, 2010 1:50 pm (Pacific time)

For Jess: Norblad granted custoy of Coral's children to Warner, because he bribed Norblad.


Jess Phillips Jr. May 12, 2010 11:27 am (Pacific time)

I have been a friend of Coral's for many, many years. I think what most people don't realize is that the reason she lost custody of here children is because her ex-husband had (has) more political clout in Oregon than she has.
How else can you explain the fact that Marty Warner (Coral's ex)-- whom she accuses of rape and sexual assault-- was granted custody of their eight children? Coral has fought this fight for many years now. I am delighted that Salem-News.com has given her the opportunity to tell her side of this tragic story.


Rieve Rockwell May 11, 2010 4:37 am (Pacific time)

That a Judge (Judge Albin Norblad) would sign a court order REMOVING EIGHT CHILDREN, INCLUDING A NURSING INFANT, FROM THEIR MOTHER, for any reason other than child abuse, is shameful, shameful, shameful and every mother in this country should pay attention to such an unbelievable action. I have my doubts as to whether any male person, judge or not, should have the right to make such a profound decision, and Mr. Judge Norblad more than boldly demonstrates why. Can Judge Norblad please explain to the public exactly what crime was committed by Coral Theill that would justify such a "cruel and unusual" lifetime sentence for this mother.... AND HER EIGHT CHILDREN??? Yes, there was abuse in this case, that's for certain. The abuse however was committed by Mr. Warner, the righteous "Christian" husband/father, and by Mr. Albin Norblad the "wise" and powerful judge. If ever there was a miscarriage of justice, this is it. My personal history includes being a Pediatric nurse for 40 years, a foster care parent, as well as the parent of 4. I know Coral Theill personally and can guarantee she did not deserve such a dispicably inappropriate sentence - nor did her children - and that is exactly what this judge did. MOTHERS BEWARE: STAY AWAY FROM THE STATE OF OREGON, where such atrocities are being committed; how easy it is to imagine this judge presiding at the Salem witch hunts! What Mr. Warner did, and what Mr. Judge Albin Norblad justified, is horrifying; I believe that Mr. Warner and Judge Norblad have long since LOST THEIR WAY as human beings.


Claudine Dombrowski May 9, 2010 7:50 am (Pacific time)

Thank you Coral! Shine Bright Today and Stand Proud!! I am with you all Today at the DC March--in Spirit.


Aaron May 9, 2010 5:42 pm (Pacific time)

Hey mom, just wanted to give a shout out that you are the coolest mom ever! I hope you are doing something fun today and just taking it easy and enjoying life. Anyway just wanted to let you know today that I'm thinking of you and appreciate you for being there all these years as not only a mother, but a close friend. Happy Mother's Day!


Barbara Mathews May 9, 2010 9:50 am (Pacific time)

It's obvious to me, as it should be to anyone who reads this story, that these children were taken away from Ms. Theill as a method of revenge and manipulation, not by GOD, but by her ex-husband. This is a slap in the face against all true believers who practice humility, meekness and turning the other cheek. Apparently Mr. Warner has desired to extract much more than a "pound of flesh", but to try to destroy his wife's very life, stopping short of murder. And in the process, hasn't given any consideration whatever to the harm done to his own children by his vicious. vindictive behavior. As a Christian who takes the teachings of Christianity seriously, I can only say that no true believer would ever resort to going to the lengths Mr. Warner has against his wife, not only taking her children away, but harassing her in the courts, and extracting "child support" money he DIDN'T NEED from the woman who bore his children. Shame on him and shame on the Oregon courts and judges that perpetrated these disgraceful acts. I'm beginning to think these custody cases should be decided by a panel of "successfully married" couples with children, with no hidden "legalistic" religion or other agendas, not by lone wolf judges and shrewd and unethical divorce lawyers out for a buck.


Earl Richards May 9, 2010 4:10 am (Pacific time)

"Judge" Albin Norblad granted custody of Coral Theill's eight children to a rapist and a wife-beater. This should be outlawed. If the family court judge grants custody of children to a wife-beater, then he should be charged with child endangerment. If the wife-beater is a danger to his(ex)wife, then he is a danger to her children. One does not need a law degree to know this. The Child Protective Services should be forced by law to check on these children, who's custody is granted to a rapist and a wife-beater. If judicial immunity is not ended, then the family court judges will keep-on breaking the law. Wife-beating belongs under the jurisdiction of a criminal court, and not the farce and fraud of a family court. The family courts have to be open to the public, to the press/media and to court watchdog organizations because the public taxpayers are supporting these courts, so the taxpayers should how their tax dollars are being spent, and to weed-out corrupt and negligent judges, in the public interest and in the children's interest.

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