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Huge Pot Bust Worth Almost $10 Million Near Scio (NEW PICS ADDED)

Police have raided a huge marijuana growing operation in the mountains between Scio and Lyons that they say had a street value of over $9 million.

File photo of marijuana seizure
Photos courtesy: Tim Mueller/Linn County Sheriff

(ALBANY) - Police have raided a huge marijuana growing operation in the mountains between Scio and Lyons that they say had a street value of over $9 million.

Linn County Sheriff Tim Mueller says members of the Linn Drug Task Force have eradicated the large outdoor marijuana operation that was discovered in a remote area.

Beginning Wednesday and continuing through Thursday, Linn County deputies, along with members of the DEA and the Sheriff's Office Search and Rescue Post pulled and destroyed 4,707 mature marijuana plants. They say some of the individual plants were over 12 feet tall. The plants were in the cycle of life where they produce the buds that contain the higher levels of THC. They were very close to harvest.

The estimated street value of these plants is in excess of $9,414,000 according to investigators. They say the operation was located in the mountainous area near McCully Mountain on Weyerhaeuser property.

Evidence of campsites and a watering system were discovered nearby.

The marijuana was spotted from the air by deputies during a flyover of the area. The Sheriff's Office conducts these flyover operations annually, searching for marijuana operations.

No arrests have been made at this time; however the case remains under investigation.

The Linn Drug Task Force is staffed in a cooperative agreement by the Linn County Sheriff's Office, Albany Police Department, Lebanon Police Department and the Sweet Home Police Department.

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Aaron Mcdermott ( oregon ) February 16, 2011 10:56 am (Pacific time)

I hate dumb people who DONT smoke weed cuz all they say is. " Pots bad becouse, If you drive, And, You could, Ahh, Well, Hit a pedestrian or something " sounding all stupid and fumbling over there typed ( really dumb people ) words and sentences just to find some kind of an excuse or try to explain ( lying to them selves or un educated ) how pots addictive or morally wrong becouse "the man"
(lawyers and legislators )Say so just to keep "there" morals in check and there checks never unsigned.

Anonymous February 16, 2011 10:53 am (Pacific time)

I hate dumb people who DONT smoke weed cuz all they say is. " Pots bad becouse, If you drive, And, You could, Ahh, Well, Hit a pedestrian or something " sounding all stupid and fumbling over there typed ( really dumb people ) words and sentences just to find some kind of an excuse or try to explain ( lying to them selves or un educated ) how pots addictive or morally wrong becouse "the man" (lawyers and legislators )Say so just to keep "there" morals in check and there checks never unsigned.

pot head March 16, 2010 7:28 am (Pacific time)

look copper it is not bad to smoke pot im a juggalo and i smoke all the fu*#@ing time befor school durning school and after and im geting my sh#t done 

Editor: No profanity pot head!

miss I November 8, 2009 6:10 pm (Pacific time)

They should allow legal smokers like myself go and pick some out instead of burning it or what ever they do.Lol

ja-rhey March 22, 2009 9:47 pm (Pacific time)

my condolences to whoevers crop this was, looks like someoones put alot of work into it

ja-rhey March 22, 2009 9:44 pm (Pacific time)

marijuana is still illeagal first and foremost it cant be controled.. its to eazy to grow..

Austin. November 11, 2008 8:17 pm (Pacific time)

Ok think about this everyone.. Would you want to hang with a drunk person who might be puking and falling all over the place acting like an idiot because he cant control himself or.. would you want to hang out with someone whos happy and actually does remember things usually unless you smoke some high grade shit but thats ok sometimes, plus their smiling and you know your gonna have a fun time even if your not smoken. I smoke weed.. its not that big of a deal at all just dont abuse it only if ur doing everything right and you feel happy then go ahead just be yourself. And to all those people who look down on the people who smoke a god given plant all i half to say is try it. or screw off then dont judge me. I hope one day we get some smart people in Washington who will make the right choice and legalize. Alcohol has hurt more lives than marijuana which is a freaking FACT! Thank You. Be Wise Legalize.

Editor: Austin, your point of view is welcome here but your language isn't.  I cleaned it up this time, do not use profanity on Salem-News,com, it is not allowed, thanks.

GreenGrowGuy September 17, 2008 1:50 pm (Pacific time)

I'm surprised at how many of you posting here just don't get it about why pot is still very much illegal in most of the US. It's not the cops who decide what is and what isn't legal, it's the lawyers and legislators who are bought-off by the alcohol and pharmaciutical makers who know that legalizing pot will greatly affect their profits. Many cops smoke pot and why not. They all know it's better than booze or other drugs, but they have a job to do and they do what they're told in order to stay employed by the lawyers. My simple advice here is to stop complaining about cops and do something to change legislation in your state. It's the only way you'll change this shitty cenario and get good green bud to be legal for everyone, not just those within medical marijuana programs. Look into who the pros and cons are in our own state legislature and support the ones who support public pot possession. Attack those who are against pot by writing letters to the editor and print flyers and hand outs to better educate others who may have an interest in fair government. We're entering into new horizons for marijauna and it's up to the public to make it legal through better education and factual knowledge about pot and who opposes it's legalization.

toaster July 22, 2008 2:46 am (Pacific time)

wow neva knew outdoor cronic looks so sick!!!!!!!!!!!!

buzz_master June 2, 2008 11:26 am (Pacific time)

legalized weed !!NOW!! this the life weed smoke weed evryday its my lift smoke weed

jay June 2, 2008 5:06 am (Pacific time)

LEGALIZE FREEDOM!!!!! Smoke weed 4 life!

John Perrine May 29, 2008 8:33 am (Pacific time)

Let me get some!

Jessica Laporte May 8, 2008 1:26 pm (Pacific time)

You say what did a pot head ever do too you? Well lets see when a person is high andthy are driving and indangering the common padestrian!! If u do it in the presents of your own home its not bad but dont do it 24/7!!! When you start smoking pot and get addicted too it, it becomes a part of your daily rutean of there day! And people use it to

secret smoker March 28, 2008 10:26 am (Pacific time)

ive smoked pot for a couple years now and i must say it helps me dramaticly, i have some anger issues an it really helps me calm down about 90% of the us smokes pot i dont understand why they wolnt legalize it, its probably the one thing i know of that you cant overdose on. You can even overdose on water, i want someone to tell me what has a pothead ever done to you? from being chilled out an smokin a blunt. Look at all the alcohol in the world you cant drive while under the influence but millions of people drive while smoking pot and its very rare to hear about an accident from just pot, i hate the goverment with a full blowen passion they are egotistical idiots, an if they legalized it they could use it to get ride of our 34 billion dollar debt they need to quit thinking about themselves and start thinking about how they can help there people this is aspose to be the place were you can be free and where anything is possible but you cant sit back an smoke but you can guzzle your brains out an go kill a family because you blacked out an went driving...

a bad cop February 25, 2008 7:43 am (Pacific time)

hi , ummm ya im a cop and i blow it down on a daily basis , get at me if u need anything , haha

FREE THE GREEN December 13, 2007 6:55 am (Pacific time)

I agree, anyone can go into a state liquor store and but a bottle of 100 proof alcohol and mellow out into a tree, or a mother with her child in the car. Yet something that comes from nature herself is looked at as if it were personal suicide. Weed has never ever been noted for a death or overdose. The government needs to get their heads out of their asses and look at the big picture and legalize the beautiful plant. How many deaths are accounted for each yeah due to alcohol?? Way to many, how many wives and other people get beat and mistreated due to alcohol abuse. OK what about the violence rate while on weed. NONE...Government will not renig on what they have been fighting for, for the last 60 years, all they need to do is tax it an it would be the same as alcohol. They would make money on it and they would open up about 35% of the jails for the other pieces of shit that have been intoxicated and killed someone, or beat their loved ones. DAMN is it that big of a deal to stop and think what the Government could do with it!!!!Proud cannabis users. Its medical use for me. I have had 2 back surgeries and the meds they give me help but nothing like weed. They government is overlooking the benefits of cannabis because in the past they have numerously stated how bad cannabis is, and there is no medical use for it. I can detest all this right here, right now. I don't care what any offical says. Cannabis has helped my chronic pain, keeps my nerves from firing all night, also helps me think more clearly and helps me sleep. How can someone in the stupid political game say that there is no medical use..ha smoke it and find out.....IDIOTS..Very PROUD toker. God bless the plant!!! LEGALIZE NOT LEGAL LIES!!!

big hemp November 19, 2007 9:22 am (Pacific time)

who are u to tell us we cant smoke up if alcohol is legal weed should be legal too they do pretty much the same shit except all the helth factors that alcohol gives u... if anything weed helps many people like aids patients people with chronic pains and insomnia.... but u guys are too stupid and stubborn to understand that....

VofUniornemen August 31, 2007 11:50 pm (Pacific time)

hi everyone - long time lurker this is my first post on Many thanks to others for all the good posts! If this is the wrong category for this post just drop a line or move it mods! following a health scare I've been seriously considering various means of dramatic weight loss. Im looking for some input on differnet methods. I've done some research at and Mens Fitness and am considering possibly using the a supplement or herbal method like hoodia weight loss, possibly high intensity interval training, or some combination. Any suggestions or information or help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot to everyone.

andrew August 21, 2007 6:27 pm (Pacific time)

I think all this misdirected hate towards these police officers is unjust. I smoke marijuana daily and I love police officers. Obviously it's inconvienent that our habit is illegal but these brave men and women that most people here are saying they hate put their lives on the line everyday for us. Im grateful to all the police officers for their hard and hope someday we can come to terms with our nations prohibition on cannabis.

Big Johnson May 29, 2007 5:29 am (Pacific time)

They can't stop us when the Clock hits 420.

joe May 27, 2007 10:00 pm (Pacific time)

peace love dope!!

J-Dub May 25, 2007 12:27 pm (Pacific time)

To destroy beauty like that is unjust. The cops who seized that should put in jail their damn selfs. It's okay though, cuz im smokin on some chronic right now. And, ya know, there are probably plenty of fields like that that you b**** a** cops will never find! Budda Love

kevin mulvey May 23, 2007 10:21 am (Pacific time)

man leave the pot be so we people can smoke it!

mike May 10, 2007 5:07 pm (Pacific time)

you ******* pigs wont catch us all you lousey fat pieces of ****, eat another doughnut while i smoke my weed! oh yeah , hey copper screw you and your hypocrite ways!!!!!!!!!!

Deep in da EO May 4, 2007 8:31 pm (Pacific time)

maaaaayn...if i were u stupid porkers i woulda quit being a cop and started farming that crop. talk about crooked cops, killing such beauty....looks like fire, bud from tha valley grows so dank. but for real cops go f%&* with sum tweekers trust me you wouldn't have as hard of a time finding sum tweekers as u did to find this crop u porkers...genisis 1:11 (look it up and take it how u want to) live by the book u cops because now you'll have to answer to god.

bill May 2, 2007 2:25 pm (Pacific time)

Bad deal that looked like good weed

Z_dub April 26, 2007 2:05 pm (Pacific time)

yo guys i live right by that crop and i was sad when i heard it got busted but hey that was one of the many crops that u *&%#@ pigs didnt get so HA! marion county police go catch some tweekers

Student April 24, 2007 10:38 am (Pacific time)

All you people who smoke pot and are saying to keep smoking it are making yourself look bad if you haven't noticed. Your grammar and the way you talk is degrading to all people who smoke pot. I smoke it. I don't talk like I'm mentally ill. Pot doesn't make you stupid. Seriously, think about that. LEGALIZE IT

Anonymous April 17, 2007 10:00 am (Pacific time)

y u steal there plants fools jahahahha

someone April 10, 2007 8:51 am (Pacific time)

why dont they just legalize the damn thing? man. have you ever herd of somone overdosing on that. the answer. NO!!! hey but people can drink and get an overdose on that and kill there damn selves. and smoke cigaretts an die from lung cancer. but hey at least its not crack or heroin. dude just do it.

Abbey Lane March 22, 2007 8:34 pm (Pacific time)

Go to and see how many people in law enforcement deal confiscated drugs. Grow it. Legalize it. Break the law because it is a crock. And as for you Copper, worry about your beer alchoholic friends. And stop yelling at and beating your kids and wife.

what March 13, 2007 7:59 pm (Pacific time)


joe March 8, 2007 12:52 pm (Pacific time)

i cant belive that the cops would do that if i was the grower i would be pissed off how dare they!

potsmoker4life March 2, 2007 9:48 am (Pacific time)


jizz man February 26, 2007 7:54 am (Pacific time)

i make it rain, this is some good weed

bettle February 24, 2007 1:16 pm (Pacific time)

This is to that cooper guy . I dont smoke weed and i'll tell you you need some counseling ***** negative ******* what gives you the right to say stuff like that to people who like to smoke a little weed . i'd rather hang with a stoner than you any day your the fucking loser !!!!

DeLundon February 20, 2007 12:26 pm (Pacific time)

To this *** who says people who smoke weed are worthless pieces of society, drop dead. I smoke weed EVERYDAY, and have a 3.8 in college, and maintain a full time drug. Pass the bowl.

Infamus Herb February 19, 2007 3:12 pm (Pacific time)

Johnny Law will always be busting pot heads and pot heads will always be smoking. Its never going to change. I think if pot was legalized it wouldn't be as much of a thrill to smoke pot. But haters keep hatin and stoners keep smokin! smoke treez

chronic4life February 7, 2007 1:20 pm (Pacific time)

smoke weed everyday its a drug tht is like tobacco but gets u high and has lower effects then alcohol= legalize marijuana!!

bud man January 8, 2007 3:50 am (Pacific time)

dont stop smoking just coz of the pigs and to all smokers smoke weed every day in the leaf we trust r u wasted

Copper December 4, 2006 7:57 am (Pacific time)

You're all a bunch of drug addicts!The whole mess of you! You useless bits of pothetic infintiles! Relying on legal(prescribed by a doctor) or illegal(not in the pharmaceuticals best interest)drugs are for losers floating through life thinking they are actually experiencing life. Their feelings are in their heads and they never really truly had any real gut feelings. Feelings in the head that's all. Roll yourself another! Pop another pharmy! Losers!

Mike November 22, 2006 7:56 am (Pacific time)

Hi my yank friends, here in the uk our goverment has accepted that pot smoking is better than drinking and allows consumption and possesion of small amounts. No prosecution for cultivation of up to 11 plants.Bout time blair and bush sat down had a joint and sorted themselfs out before tryin to sort out the world.

screw the gov November 14, 2006 7:32 am (Pacific time)

legalize marijuana

stoner October 25, 2006 10:05 am (Pacific time)

you should of left them alone

woo October 24, 2006 10:07 am (Pacific time)

wooooo was here

Jimmy Dean October 22, 2006 2:29 am (Pacific time)

It is so refreshing to read of others who share the same views and feelings about pot and the gov't as i do. I could have sworn it was just my the people who stop by my basement. Hang in there the revolution is about to begin, are you in?

xx October 21, 2006 2:39 pm (Pacific time)

Keep growin!! You'll never get us all

LEO October 14, 2006 8:11 pm (Pacific time)

Congratulations Linn County. Keep up the good work. Glad to know were shutting down the Mexican Mafia.

Belinda October 5, 2006 5:04 pm (Pacific time)

i have been smoking since i was 15 im now 49 and have used weed to help me with a cronic pain condition i have, if anyone here in my neck of the woods Utah knew that i did, i would be arrested and have my children taken from me, shouldnt we be using our tax dollars to do good, not to break up families, report big pot busts so the cops can pat themselves on the back yet again. this is so f_*k_d up.

Anonymous September 27, 2006 1:11 pm (Pacific time)

Is that the O-Dawg?

Orion September 27, 2006 10:33 am (Pacific time)

OMFG who ever the hell done this is amasing and i now praze them as a new allmity over lord of WEED!

Cat Man September 20, 2006 12:22 am (Pacific time)

I would not expect this government to get anything right. With the mess they have gotten us into around the world, how do you think they will deal with their own? Remember if you’re not with us you’re against us. All we want is to believe that we can reduce pain and extend life. God help us all.

Albert Marnell September 14, 2006 11:19 pm (Pacific time)

Life is real short. I want freedom as an adult to do what I want as long as I do not hurt anyone. Before you know it we all will be dead. People should spend more time in cemeteries so they can see how short and absurd this existence is. Being in a job you hate is unhealthy. A bad relationship is unhealthy. Pot is petty compared to so many other things and can be good for you and so tasty too. Don't make assumptions, I can not handle any kind of smoke because of an inherited sinus condition. I have never seen a person's life ruined because of marijuana. I have seen people ruined by people who label people as pot heads and then fire them or look down on them. Have a Virginia Slim or a Twinkie...real healthy....BLAHHHHHHHHH.

eqriddler September 13, 2006 2:10 am (Pacific time)

The medicinal benefits of pot are outweighed by established alternatives, which leaves the myriad other uses. No doubt more positives exist than have been imagined. I would buy and support products made from hemp (pot) and encourage others to also. It's unfortunate that the particular abuse of the plant is the one thing that prevents us from enjoying all its benefits. But, like the parent who sacrifices for its children, we can't have everything. I would rather give up all those benefits as precious as they are and as much pleasure as they would be, than to cause through my tacit approval, people to sink into a morass of degeneration. Though you have a disease and treat it with pot legally, doesn't make it the best choice for you. The best choice is one that cures the disease and finding that option requires clear thought. Does an answer exist? Lots of people would say so, but lots of people support your decision too.

to EQriddler September 11, 2006 4:41 pm (Pacific time)

you said "The hanging out and going to coffee and partying and on and on, is not a goal builder. So don't smoke pot and waste your life". I am terminally ill and for the most part cannot leave my house. I use Medical Marijuana, as licensed by the State of Oregon to relieve my pain and nausea. You said a very ignorant statement and sized up anyone who uses marijuana in your statement. I have kept all of my goals and have had a very successful life until I was diagnosed with Cervix Cancer. Now, my goal is to try to have a productive life and enjoy my children and granchildren until I am no longer able to be on this earth. Do you have an occasional drink with dinner? A beer here and there? How bout I catagorize you as a sloppy drunk who pisses themselves under the bridge because because alcohol has diminshed your ability to set goals and accomplish them? I'm so glad I have the right to vote in this Country because I am confident that Cannabis will be legal within 20 years. Read this and you will see how HEMP can change EVERYTHING.

eqriddler September 11, 2006 12:17 pm (Pacific time)

Albert, stick to subject. I would like to make the point that you get out of something what you put into it. You reap what you sow. You want something but what is it? That's a goal you work toward. The hanging out and going to coffee and partying and on and on, is not a goal builder. So don't smoke pot and waste your life. Those who believe the lie that their effort is not effective may become depressed and discontinue trying to reach their goals. Drugs etc., seem appealing then. But the cost of retreat is really much higher than that viewed through those deceived eyes. Because in addition to the cessation of effort that ruins to an extent the work already accomplished, there is a paralyzing effect. The effect is profound in the mental trigger that you activate through the deliberate behavior. Then reinforcment of that trigger likely will occur. A program of deliberate behavior toward realizing a desirable goal, supplants the lie.

Joel Walker September 11, 2006 10:10 am (Pacific time)

Just a thought - when you remove all the emotional content and ax-grinding and analyze marijuana's (and hemp fiber's) applicable benefits weighed against identifieable hazards - isn't the real argument against its measured use that one of the uncontrollable side effects is that it makes you feel good? I don't have any special insight into government agency policy formulation, but I can't shake the hunch that they just can't stand the idea that people want to feel good and that's probably why the artificial crap they dole out in pill form is ... in pill form. Maybe it's just me.

Albert Marnell September 11, 2006 10:10 am (Pacific time)

Thank you Amanda M.. I can't do consciousness raising on my own. I am not a one man show. I too get tired and have my own responsiblities. Thank you for your help. This is a team effort against ignorance, myth and lies.

Amanda M. September 11, 2006 9:49 am (Pacific time)

Wow, I'm impressed that so many people are paying attention to this topic. I see that Oregonians really do have grass values! The idiocy of judging this herb equally with REAL dangerous toxins shows just how backward our laws are, and it's nice to hear some common sense replies to it. We spend too much money turning people into criminals. Let them have a smoke, and leave the state-sponsored alcohol behind! We sure would have a lot less drunks at the wheel if they were home, peacefully enjoying their herb, and munching on popcorn. Why are people so afraid of pot, when alcohol KILLS loved ones every single day??? Are they really under the impression that booze improves careers and enhances family life?

Albert Marnell September 11, 2006 4:15 am (Pacific time)

Dear Lela, It's a real bummer to have our dreams of a better world destroyed by the same kind of people that pushed Vietnam on us.

Albert Marnell September 11, 2006 2:43 am (Pacific time)

Eqriddler, If you knew how hard I have fought for everything for 51 years, you would know that I am the last one to compromise values which everyone has to do in certain ways or they will not be able to function. Wanting something illogical changed is clear thinking and for the record, I can't smoke anything because I have a chronic sinus condition that is easily irritated. If you drink coffee, tea, things with sugar or even a poor diet or do not exercise these are just a few examples of altered states or moods. Living life is the way to learn. Books are fine but they have nothing to do with the real world. I can take 90% of what I learned in college as a finance major and throw it out the window. The real world is not in the security of a theoretical book. When you get into the labor market for a long time, you will see that the best do not get to the top. Often they get disgusted with the rigid corporate mentality and leave because it stifles their creativity. Universities are just businesses as are all schools. Hospitals are just businesses. Religion is just a business with a bottom line. Furthermore, I have not sunk to the bottom. Most people that meet me are jealous of me so I try to keep my mouth shut and be humble in person. People are very jealous by nature and not honest enough with themselves to admit it. I am not one to be jealous of because if you are my friend, I will give you as much as I can in many ways. You seem to be only able to refract the world through your prism and have a plethora of preconceived notions. I never said that smoking pot lead to anything. That is my point. Smoking pot in moderation is good for some people who want to use it as some sort of vacation from the insane world that always existed. 24/7 productivity is not healthy. Going to the gym is healthy but can be obsessive and unhealthy. In the 50's you could die of boredom if you had any intellect. Don't be so big on control, it is over rated. It is not a badge of honor and can interfere with a good orgasm. Now is the pleasure of sex something to be feared too? We are on this earth for such a short time that we were not meant to live a clinical existence. If you want your gravestone to read, "Here lies eqriddler," "He always controlled himself." That and $2 dollars will get you on the subway. No one is saying that you should be stoned 24/7 and masturbating in the middle of the highway. But lighten up a bit. This is life not a hospital. You are too frightened of crossing boundaries because you are afraid that you have no real control. If you smoked one joint that does not mean you would smoke another. And that is a personal decision anyway, but please masturbate in your free time to your hearts content because free time today is so little, a good game of pocket pool is better than a cup at Starbucks. Besides it is good for your prostate gland. You don't want to get backed up so to speak. I expect to be dead based on family history within 38 years or less. I do not even count on the next day. Almost all of my blood family is dead and I often think about how important they were at one time, how they worried about this or that, and now they are forgotton by almost everyone. This life is a fleeting eye-blink. Maybe you are young and the future seems endless. I remember those years but knew the years would pass and they go faster as you get older. I am sorry if I offended you. I lose patience easily these days because time is so precious. Just take what you can from other peoples' experience and give it a rest. Don't live life according to a social or cultural prescription, this is life not medicine.

eqriddler September 10, 2006 9:21 pm (Pacific time)

Albert, it seems like you believe smoking pot leads to some kind of hopeful future. I may live in fantasy horseshot world as you say if that's true. You must know that diminished thought does not promote goal achievement. I have reached some of my goals in part because I refused to allow my friends to dictate my celebratory releases. I have fun... my way. I control myself. I don't pretend that life is easy but being thoughtful makes it easier. As far as "rising to the top based on academics and a fair labor market", studying is the only way to learn anything. It's a great priviledge and a great pleasure to do so. And rising to the top is another man's sinking to the bottom if it means compromising your values which I sense you hold to. However, fairness is not a universal value among us, all you would have to do is define it and it would be universal. It is one of those hard to live with realities that is relative given the circumstances. I prefer to meet people half way more or less. Less means I'm lazy or worse greedy. More means I have an opportunity to meet someones need. If you won't go half way, go in peace. If you can't go half way, I may go more, I may not.

Lela September 10, 2006 9:21 pm (Pacific time)

Albert, I remember the 60's and the hopes we all had, but I also remember the 70's and 80's and how those hopes seemed to suddenly start evaporating. That is when I had to took inside myself and as an individual keep those ideals alive. It makes me feel good to read your comments and realize that there are others who do remember as I do.

Albert Marnell September 10, 2006 4:36 pm (Pacific time)

Dear Josephone, Your point is right on target. When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn? You know the song. I am so sad that after living through the sixties as a kid and young teenager and then the seventies as a teenager and young adult that other peoople have destroyed some of the promises of the sixties. Is it that some of the Bobby Sox Generation is still in power with their 1950's Prom Queen point of view?

Josephone September 10, 2006 2:05 pm (Pacific time)

Hi Albert, I really like what you say. It is so true that some people live in this world of fantasy. To be honest, I did at one time, but as I got older I kept my eyes open and suddenly realized that this world is not black and white. We live in the world of "gray." I would never propose that children smoke pot, nor would I propose they drink alcohol. But doesn't it make sense to tell our children the truth about each. That once one becomes an adult and when decisions can be made that moderation is the key and that there is a time and place for everything. Alcohol has destroyed so many lives and seems to have the power to bring out "demons" more that anything I have ever witnessed. I have seen normally gentle people turn in to raving maniacs once they drank beyond the point of reason. When I once worked with a crisis service years ago, one of the questions I asked when we got a domestic violence call was, "Was there alcohol involved." I can honestly say that 99.98% of the time they answered "Yes!" When asked if abuser had been using "pot" the answer was, "No, I wish they had been then they wouldn't hit me." So tell me why our government demonizes pot and glorifies alcohol???

AM in the AM September 10, 2006 6:51 am (Pacific time)

eqriddler, I played by the rules my whole life and the real world does not work the way you portray. You need an in with some of the "Bad Boys" to get anywhere for the most part. You think in black and white. There are many people that like their wine with dinner or their marijuana. You portray marijuana just like that ridiculous documentary from 1936 "Reefer Madness." Have the young people regressed that much in awareness?

Haddit September 10, 2006 6:08 am (Pacific time)

Why do people call Marijuana Dope? Alchohol is Dope. The rigid Corporate Culture is Dope and really stupid too.

Albert Marnell September 10, 2006 5:56 am (Pacific time)

Come On eqriddler, Don't wave the banner of the children as a fear tactic. No one is saying children should use herbs to get high. Why don't you protest your local liquor store? Drugs are good for people and you believe that the system allows the very best to rise to the top based on academics and a fair labor market? Where have you been? The world you speak of is gone and maybe never existed. You assume that people can not smoke (adults) and function. My parents had cocktails everynight after work, not that I liked it. But they were adults. I hate this belief in the "Donna Reed Show" world. The world is corrupt and unfair and evil on every level. Any older person with life experience in the trenches of the labor market, military, education, etc. will tell you at retirement that it was all fantasy from the beginning. As their eyes opened, they could not wait to retire. You are a bright person but you again are living in a fantasy sanitized horseshot world (I love that expression.)

Overgovernment Hater September 10, 2006 3:32 am (Pacific time)

Legalize pot, ban the DEA!

eqriddler September 10, 2006 2:17 am (Pacific time)

I was gladdened by the find. That much pot removed so close to home means a bunch of kids will be getting better grades and lives. Don't self medicate, educate. I know it's hard, but step up. All the "fun" is in sharing ACTIVITIES that people get to do when they study and work. Not for a couple of years in high school, losing track of each other, failing the drug test for the better job or worse getting fired for failing or worse, watching your friend get fired that you smoke dope with. The list goes on and on. Some people will catch on, others are too stoned to live life. Save yourself from them.

Albert Marnell September 10, 2006 12:12 am (Pacific time)

ATTENTION: NEW DIRECTIVE FROM WASHINGTON: TO TAKE PLACE IMMEDIATELY. Anyone engaging in the illegal practice of growing fruits and vegetables against federal law #2468 Code #666, will be arrested and charged with a felony. Food items not inspected by Federal Officials are a danger to the public health. Pesticide levels will be monitored by the National Guard. The penalty is life in prison. ATTENTION: THIS IS NOT A REAL DIRECTIVE. It is fake, but kind of creepy ain't it? Just like Orson Wells's "War of the Worlds." Don't laugh in many ways we are already there.

AM in the AM September 9, 2006 11:37 pm (Pacific time)

If the young, oppressed, poor, innately intelligent would only vote, stupid stuff like this would never happen.

Anonymous September 9, 2006 11:30 pm (Pacific time)

Good job Albert, always a help!

Albert Marnell September 9, 2006 11:24 pm (Pacific time)

Oh Bonnie, Oh Bonnie, Wake-up, Wake-up, wherever you are. Your cat nap of 10 seconds is over. Time to work again. The File Photo of Marijuana Seizure is over some writing. No one is perfect and we all make mistakes....except the present administration which makes nothing but mistakes and the word perfect can not even be remotely linked to their behavior. Yes, Condosleeza, you too. Eat look like a stick woman.

Josephone September 9, 2006 10:21 pm (Pacific time)

Hi Albert, thanks, sure is a tempting offer, but sorry a little too fast at this time.

Tia Juana September 9, 2006 7:39 pm (Pacific time)

One of the people to sell me my first smoke in 1972 was a young girl cousin of Don McClean. Marijuana is as American as Miss American Pie. If you are reading, HI ROSEMARY BONO--How is RoseAnne?

Albert Marnell September 9, 2006 7:33 pm (Pacific time)

Dear Josephone, We have alot in common. Why don't you come over for a cup of coffee and then you must come and live with me. (Is this too fast?)

Anonymous September 9, 2006 4:18 pm (Pacific time)

Go Albert Go!

rob September 9, 2006 2:19 pm (Pacific time)

Wow millions of plants are being killed. 212 milion in Indiana alone. Not sure why our bankrupt govt is spending billions on this. DEA says 99% of it is hemp-ie of no value

Albert Marnell September 9, 2006 11:21 am (Pacific time)

Hey Joe, I am a citizen too. You obviously do not know the politics of the control of Marijuana. You sound like you grew up on the set of "Father Knows Best". Ask Lauren Chapin who played "Kitten." On the set it was Father Knows Best but at home it was father knows daughter in unspeakable ways. If you want to live a sanitized horseshot existence in a Disneyland fantasy be my guest. Just don't include others in your boxed-in- life. Go after big pharma. Marijuana is finally legal for people with certain illness but it is a threat to big multinationals. When was the last time you or one of your friends had beer or a home grown tomato. I know, let's make growing your own vegetables illegal so that agri-business can flourish even more. Your perspective is sophomoric, retrograde and insipid.

The Truth September 9, 2006 9:28 am (Pacific time)

How much of this beautiful plant will disappear and be redistributed by the same people that take it? The answer. ALOT! Crack down on Merck, Pfizer, Smith Kline, and all the rest. Pot is competition for the big pharma industry. Big Pharma has powerful people in D.C. who can't stand the competition.

Albert Marnell September 9, 2006 9:21 am (Pacific time)

The street value in South American is probably $50,000.00 Give us all a break. It is a plant that competes with the drug companies and the liquor industry.

Albert Marnell September 9, 2006 9:14 am (Pacific time)

Legalize the darn stuff and hit the liquor industry and lobby in Washington D.C. where they live.....In the pocketbook!

Joel Walker September 8, 2006 11:47 pm (Pacific time)

Okay, I know cannabis is almost a different species than it used to be, and much more potent than in the old "four finger" days, but are the authorities still using the same outrageous volume estimates to come up with "street value?" And another thing - there are "mountains" between Scio and Lyons? Or does it just seem like it after a long day of handling 12-foot pot plants?

to J.Citizen September 8, 2006 10:04 pm (Pacific time)

This is exactly why there is a Hempstalk fest in Portland this weekend. It is to educate the public on the medicinal value of marijuana. It is also to help in the education, regulation, and legalization. Too bad they didnt do a drive over and find METH and take it off of the streets. THAT is where the REAL problem lies.

Josephone Citizen September 8, 2006 4:10 pm (Pacific time)

Gosh, I don't smoke pot but you know the govenment could be making a lot of money on taxing the stuff if they would legalize it. They could monitor the growing, utilize the whole plant for medicinal uses and other usable items of "hemp." From what I have read, this is a plant from "Mother Nature" so why not use it in good ways and take the myths away. Isn't it now used for depression, relieve pain for the terminally ill or individuals suffering from chronic pain? I know that the stuff has been criminalized by individuals abusing it, especially the ones who sell it, spiking it up with other chemicals to help them make a fast buck. Just think, if the government put rules and regulations on the "farming" of marijuana, taxed it, put restrictions such as alcohol has and created new jobs in a new field of "agriculture", now that would be a possitive thing. But you know, best yet, why don't we make it legal and outlaw alcohol. I know more people whose lives have been ruined by addiction to alcohol than addiction to "pot." Just a thought. As I said, I don't smoke it, tried once, didn't like it, and haven't tried since, but I have known and still know very successful people who smoke pot and no one is the wiser.

Anonymous September 8, 2006 3:41 pm (Pacific time)


Joe Citizen September 8, 2006 1:42 pm (Pacific time)

Wow...nice job guys. It humors me to know that somewhere in this state, there are some people crying their eyes out because Johnny Law has foiled their summer crop. Way to go!!

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