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Mar-18-2010 14:21printcomments

A Little Known Fact About the 9/11 Planes

Another seriously undeniable flaw in the 'official' 9/11 story.

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(BANGKOK) - Extract: ...it would be a remarkable irony, and quite possibly a unique circumstance in the annals of American jurisprudence, if the assumptions used as reasons for launching wars against two sovereign nations, as well as the more generalised 'War on Terror' would not stand up as evidence in either a criminal prosecution or a civil damages suit in an American court of law.

It is not a theory but a fact—one that is well known within the 9/11 truth movement—that the 9/11 Commission failed to ensure that at least one of the appropriate government agencies: the NTSB, the FBI or the FAA was commissioned to positively identify the aircraft which were allegedly involved in the murders of nearly 3,000 people, on September 11, 2001.

One does not need to be a Harvard Law School graduate to know that the first and most important requirement in any murder investigation is to determine the cause of death, which often leads to a requirement to identify, and trace to its origins, a murder weapon, or, in the case of 9/11: weapons. And there can be no doubt that each of the four planes which were allegedly hijacked on the morning 9/11 was posited as being a murder weapon, by the U.S. administration and the 9/11 Commission, yet there is absolutely nothing which firmly connects the four allegedly-hijacked planes to any of the 9/11 crash sites.

In fact it is not fanciful to suggest that if a lawyer, even of a far lower calibre than that of an Alan Dershowitz, were engaged to defend the airport security companies that allegedly allowed 19 box-cutter-carrying Arabs to get onto those planes, he would immediately call for the dismissal of such an action on the grounds that the planes which allegedly hit the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and the one which crashed near Shanksville had never been forensically identified as the planes which, allegedly, had been hijacked that morning.

And such a motion could not possibly be denied, as I will explain.

The planes in question were alleged to have been: American Airlines flight 11 (Tail Number: N334AA), North Tower; United Airlines flight 175 (N612UA), South Tower; American Airlines flight 77 (N644AA), the Pentagon, and United Airlines flight 93 (N591UA), which supposedly crashed near Shanksville, Pennsylvania. But the truth is that they could well have been different planes that had arrived on the scenes from quite different locations, because the crash debris recovered from those four crash sites has never been forensically linked to the planes that allegedly took off from Logan International, Boston; Dulles International, Washington and Newark International, New Jersey, and which were, allegedly, hijacked shortly thereafter. Therefore they cannot possibly be linked, without a reasonable doubt, to breaches of security at those airports.

So, it would be a remarkable irony, and quite possibly a unique circumstance in the annals of American jurisprudence, if the assumptions used as reasons for launching wars against two sovereign nations, as well as the more generalised 'War on Terror' would not stand up as evidence in either a criminal prosecution or a civil damages suit in an American court of law.

Air-crash investigations in the United States are normally carried out by the NTSB's air accident investigation division, and there are several documentary television series featuring this government agency's painstaking approach when investigating the causes of air crashes. During many such investigations, serial numbers from recovered parts are cross checked with the airline-in-question's purchase and maintenance records, to try and identify the reason for an accident, when it is suspected that mechanical failure may have been the cause.

However the NTSB has confirmed that—apparently for the first time from its inception, in 1967, since when it has investigated more than 124,000 other aviation accidents—it took no part in investigating any of the air crashes which occurred on September 11, 2001. So the world has been asked to take it on faith and hearsay that the four planes involved were normal scheduled flights which were hijacked by Arab terrorists, some of whom, are, allegedly, still alive.

Even more disturbing is the fact that documentation exists, and is available on the Internet, which indicates that the FBI, backed up by a separate letter from the Justice Department has refused to release any information, under the Freedom of Information Act, about any debris recovered from the crash sites, including the serial number of the "Black Box" Cockpit Flight Data Recorder allegedly found near the alleged crash site of United Airlines Flight 93. It may be recalled that a transcript taken from this recorder formed the basis for several TV dramas and one Academy-Award winning feature film.

By no means finally, but just as disturbing, the core of a jet engine, which can been seen in several 9/11 videos falling out of the northern face of the WTC's South Tower, and which hit a building on its way down, and was photographed and videoed—in the presence of FBI personnel and at least one FBI vehicle—where it came to rest at the junction of Church and Murray streets, was later photographed, prior to its burial in a land fill on Staten Island. So much for what murder investigators are usually so concerned about: The chain of custody and preservation of important evidence, pending its identification.

The events of 9/11 had consequences far beyond the destruction of life and property in the United States; they were the reasons for the launching of three wars. Yet it is obvious that a leader writer of an influential newspaper, the Washington Post, could not spare the time to look into such a serious matter—one that people with far fewer resources than he or she has access to have managed to do—before launching a scathing attack on a member of the Japanese parliament and the world-wide 9/11 truth movement, in general.

Just because the 9/11 Commission did not do its job properly is no excuse for newspaper writers not to do theirs. Unless, of course, newspapers such as the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times are playing a conscious role in a conspiracy to prevent the truth about these events from surfacing. In which case their editors and owners would almost certainly be guilty of misprision of felony.

I would like to stress that the identity of the planes is not the only reason why the 9/11 Commission's findings should be regarded as invalid, and its members found guilty, at the very least, of gross oversights in the collection of the evidence which was used in the writing of its Final Report. Even a cursory look at the visual evidence of the collapsing World Trade Center's Twin Towers and WTC 7 should have instilled grave doubts about the findings of some of the experts from the National Institute of Standards and Technology, NIST.

But, for my money, the real smoking guns were, and still are, the four aircraft that were used as weapons on that terrible day, and for them not to have been identified breaks every rule in any book which seeks to teach the art of solving crimes.

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Anthony Lawson is a retired international-prize-winning commercials director, cameraman, ad-agency creative director and voice over. He used to be known for shooting humorous commercials, but doesn't find much to laugh about, with the way the world is going, these days.

After recovering from the shock of seeing the Twin Towers collapse, on subsequent showings, I developed a strong feeling that what I was seeing and what I was being told were quite different things. For two such buildings to collapse, in the manner they did, solely because they had been hit by large aircraft, did not make sense. The collapses were too uniform. If aircraft impacts were the cause, at least one of the buildings should have fallen over. I subsequently made a video called "WTC7 -- This is an Orange" to express my concern that the public was not being told the truth about 9/11.




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Scott September 23, 2012 9:08 am (Pacific time)

The conclusion that wind shear is the best procedure requires common sense. You're seeing streaks of lightning and rain shafts from a cell that lies directly ahead on your approach path and near a point at which altitude on GS will be low you're also seeing increasing performance confirming the presence of wind shear which will likely be doubled as decreasing performance at some point, closer and lower, and the conclusion is that the crew did all they could! Yes, after the fact they did but not before. Even with a lack of training, common sense dictates that you don't keep going expecting things to improve, not when dueling with a TSTM on final approach even if the thrust to weight ratio is 1:1 or greater. Just as surely as gravity always wins when defied, such a duel will be won by mother nature almost every time when low and slow especially in a heavy where mass, inertia and aerodynamic drag will easily overcome the excess power available for climb as it did in this tragic case and others that followed.


Michael Patrick May 24, 2012 8:33 pm (Pacific time)

You all are idiots, there were hundreds of witnesses that saw planes hit the building. Where do you think the plane machinery on a roof came from. Second, the fireproofing was faulty and hadn't been changed on all the floors and the planes knocked them off making the steel naked. And last what sick human being fakes a phone of a relative saying he's on a highjacked plane. Idiots!

DJ: Speaking of idiots, Michael, you need to reread the story. The author is not saying there were no planes. He is saying that there is no evidence to show that the planes hijacked out of Logan and Dulles Airports were the same ones that crashed in NY or near Shanksville. You should be wondering why the FBI and the NTSB have not only failed in this regard, but have stonewalled when it comes to releasing further information. 


Brutal Truth July 3, 2010 12:07 pm (Pacific time)

Something very simple proves that 9/11 was an inside job. The 9/11 whitewash Commission and the N.I.S.T. both admit the Towers, once the "collapses" started, came down at freefall rate in air. In other words solid steel and concrete was falling into and THROUGH other solid steel and concrete as effortlessly as passing through air. Whereas in the real world solid things offer MUCH greater resistance to a falling solid mass than air. The only way they cannot is in controlled demolitions where the solid remainder of the building is literally rendered to such a non-resisting state as to offer no more resistance than air. This is something that anyone who made it through elementary school should have no problem understanding. Solid things offer more resistance to a falling solid mass than air unless you disintegrate them with explosives, pretty effing simple.


Ben April 22, 2010 4:35 pm (Pacific time)

There is a substantial body of evidence that NO planes hit the twin towers of the WTC, or the Pentagon. Lawson writes well but he appears to have overlooked the no-planes analysis of events.


Chris O April 21, 2010 9:23 pm (Pacific time)

Cinque, If fire and jet fuel weakend its support colums it would have the top part of the buildings would have fell and tilted to one side and simply fell off of one side of the building. the whole building would not have fallen from the bottom leaving a crater with molten steel that burned and stayed hot for months


psikeyhackr April 22, 2010 2:19 pm (Pacific time)

Nice story. I didn't even know there was one organization that investigated all US crashes. But the smoking gun is Newtonian physics. Every engineering school and everyone that passed a decent physics course is involved in this now. How do you talk about collapsing skyscrapers without knowing the distribution of steel and other mass? Why haven't all of the engineering schools been demanding that info? But they will look pretty silly if they ask about it now, eight and a half years late.


Chris O April 21, 2010 9:17 pm (Pacific time)

Jim next time your on a flight, you take out your cell phone and try to make a call and see what happens.


jim April 21, 2010 8:55 pm (Pacific time)

Hey Daniel, what about Barbara Olson's phone call to her husband from Flight #77. In case you didn't read the article, the NTSB was not involved in the investigation because it was quickly determined to be a crime or an act of terrorism, rightly or wrongly.


Dan April 20, 2010 12:49 pm (Pacific time)

Brilliant story!! Thank you!!


JB April 19, 2010 9:59 pm (Pacific time)

Great Story, I think the flight mentioned in the above comment  regarding flight 77 landing at Cleveland International Airport was actually flight 93 which landed at Cleveland because Flight 77 landed at Wright Patterson Air Force Base. Also the airline "forgot" to change the tail number of Flight 93 so up until a few years ago you could still fly on the flight 93 plane, I think they changed the tail numbers to hide the fact that flight 93 was still flying in 2006. But 5 years minimum the flight 93 plane was still flying with the same tail number. It's still flying today we just don't know which plane it is. Same with flight 77.  


Chris April 20, 2010 8:31 am (Pacific time)

I would like to point out that just because you don't know of the planes being positively identified doesn't mean they never were. "The buildings in NY were designed to take multiple airplane hits and burning jet fuel is not nearly hot enough to melt steel. No skyscraper has ever fallen from a fire" I direct you to my own evaluation of the events of 9/11, located at http://www.howtonotsuck.com/viewarticle.php?id=63


Barry S April 19, 2010 10:42 pm (Pacific time)

Great work! Thank you for having the courage to write this article and who gave the green light to publish it.


balls mcghee April 19, 2010 6:09 pm (Pacific time)

It's always the camera men that can show us the way when there's science involved. And it is amazing that tptb can invent greiving families claiming their loved ones were killed in hi-jacked airplanes on 9-11. The perfect crime(someone would have come forward who was even remotley involved there definitly would be witnesses to the placing of the bombs in the towers and all of you eye witnesses were thousands of miles away when the deal went down) that said of course the government lies abd is not going to tell you everything


There when it happened! April 19, 2010 5:02 pm (Pacific time)

I could go on about how there no plane went into the pentagon and how I had access to the grounds while working at the pentagon. I can also say how the briefs and reports that I attended and read clearly indicate that what happen was not a terrorist attack, but no one would believe me and I am bound by the oath I took to defend my country. Americans are too naive and can't handle the truth.


John Taurus April 19, 2010 3:11 pm (Pacific time)

We are being used like a whore.


Kirsten-Emmi April 19, 2010 2:00 pm (Pacific time)

the thing i want to know is, if they know what planes crashed and were taken over by terrorists, whatever airport they boarded at, would have the passenger's name and photo ID, correct? why dont they look at that and then see who the freaking bombers were? it makes sense to me.


GhostR1der ATS April 19, 2010 9:01 am (Pacific time)

Best part is that the serials of some of the planes have not been struck off the records, like the rest of planes that have crashed in history... perhaps this is due to the fact that NTSB did not investigate? Anyone with a basic understanding of highschool physics can see that simultaneous failure, NIST admitted free fall WTC7 collapse violates the law of conservation of energy. If a debunker can top that i'll top myself ;P hahaha.


sumerian god king April 19, 2010 8:35 am (Pacific time)

I find it entertaining how sloppy the 911 operations was orchestrated by certain parties behind the curtain that decide world affairs. It disappoints me that so many Americans and other nationalities still beLIEve Osama, Al Qaida, Taliban, Iraq etc were involved. These secret orders play with your minds on a daily basis. It is no mistake Obama sounds like Osama and his middle name is Hussein as in Saddam Hussein. But you would rather watch your Dancing with the Stars, Nancy Grace, American Idol and play with that rediculous piece of technology called the I-Phone


Jane April 19, 2010 7:57 am (Pacific time)

Just want you to know that your "this is an orange" video is what woke me up to the truth. Before seeing that I was completely oblivious and hadn't given it a single thought. When I saw that I went "hmmmmmmm....?" and started the research to become informed. Thank you, although the truth is not pleasant and I wish I didn't know sometimes.


Tdiggs March 26, 2010 2:07 pm (Pacific time)

Very well written, thanks for sharing


Lisa Long March 22, 2010 4:34 pm (Pacific time)

I put every photo I could find of the engines on this page.... Angels for Truth

Editor: Thanks Lisa


JamesB March 22, 2010 12:39 pm (Pacific time)

ROTFLMAO. Yeah, who knows what planes those were. Because there is no way anybody would have noticed 4 OTHER $200 million jetliners missing. Those things a dime a dozen. You can pick up spares on E-Bay.


Andrew Johnson March 22, 2010 8:02 am (Pacific time)

This article is interesting in some ways, but does miss out some crucial details. 1) ALuminium wing struts cannot cut through steel girders - however fast they are travelling. 2) Planes should have crumpled or partly bounced off when hitting the towers - e.g. tail section should've broken off and fallen to the ground. 3) Consider what happens and indie or formula 1 car crashes into the side of the track (it spins round and crumples etc). 4) Magnetometer readings from 9/11 indicate initial WTC holes were created by some kind of energy pulse. 5) Claimed speed of boeings hitting WTC is around 500mph or 540mph - not achievable at 700 feet above sea level. See http://tinyurl.com/911planes for more data and thoughts.


Hush March 21, 2010 8:27 pm (Pacific time)

Mineta: "During the time that the airplane was coming into the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President...the plane is 50 miles out...the plane is 30 miles out....and when it got down to the plane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the vice president "do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said "Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary!??" I will ask Mr. Cheney, politely - what were the standing orders? And, of course, who received the standing orders. I'm sure Mr. Cheney has had and will always have, far more important things to do, than to answer one silly question. To all US Armed Forces, I will say, now and forever is the time to pray for America.


Jane March 20, 2010 5:57 pm (Pacific time)

None of the standard crime scene procedures were taken! How did that to happen? Were the people of our nation in that much of a shock that all of this got by us? Yes definitely go to he Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth website AE911 Truth.org to learn how deeply flawed and unscientific the government's actions were. Also check out the footage of the collapse of WTC building #7 which occurred at 5:20 PM on sept 11th. This building housed the Office of Emergency Management's Emergency Operation Center. Just look at the footage and draw your own logical conclusions. Great article.3rjfw


Cinque March 21, 2010 8:33 am (Pacific time)

No doubt the radar identification of these aircraft and their resulting crashes have been verified by objective evidence. In regards to the collapse of the World Towers, try to imagine the "shock" made to these structures being hit by a huge aircraft flying at a high rate of speed, which certainly would have weakened it's support system. The resulting fire created higher and higher temperatures as it became fed by an increasing air stream, like a bellows. It has been nearly nine years since this event, and if there was a conspiracy, how many people would have been involved? Why has no one come forward? Now the latter would be easy to answer via a conspiracy scenario, but understanding the empirical (what we saw) and the science (thermal physics) involved, the collapse of these buildings is what would be expected. The terrorists trained for some time going back to 1999 as per documentation in the 9/11 report, and all three planes hit their targets as planned. We were very lucky that other flights were stopped. I can appreciate doubt, but when you weigh the evidence, what happened is what you saw happen. The flight that crashed in Pennsylvania was brought down by heroes. The Pentagon crash was witnessed by hundreds and not one person has come forward to say they saw a cruise or any other type of missile hit. You do have radar confirmation of all these events, and otherwise, all conspiracy scenario's are based on supposition, and that supposition(s) have never been able to overcome the empirical evidence, nor will they.

Evidence unfortunately does not support your theory.  The buildings in NY were designed to take multiple airplane hits and burning jet fuel is not nearly hot enough to melt steel.  No skyscraper has ever fallen from a fire but even if you can buy that, there is no way to explain Tower #7, which I see no mention of in your comment sir. 


Keith Brindel March 20, 2010 8:06 am (Pacific time)

The 9/11 report refers to passenger manifests coupled with airline terminal video of these passengers loading onto the doomed aircrafts. All commercial aircraft have ATCRBS installed (see below) and their flights from take-off to landing (including crashes) are permanently recorded. The air traffic control radar beacon system (ATCRBS) is a system used in air traffic control (ATC) to enhance surveillance radar monitoring and separation of air traffic. ATCRBS assists ATC surveillance radars by acquiring information about the aircraft being monitored, and providing this information to the radar controllers. The controllers can use the information to identify radar returns from aircraft (known as targets) and to distinguish those returns from ground clutter. KB/U.S. Air Force/retired


Deb March 19, 2010 10:18 pm (Pacific time)

great points...please continue to report what you know, including the evidence of controlled demolition from WTC 1,2 and 7--from eyewitness reports on 9/11 of explosions, the nanothermite in the dust, the molten metal in the basements. Find this information on AE911Truth.org. Thank you to this newspaper for having the courage and patriotism to report such stories--so refreshing, such a difference from the news sources on the east coast of the US. Please, other nations, launch your own investigations--we need your help to expose the truth and inform the still sleeping or denying American public.


Rationalist March 19, 2010 5:15 pm (Pacific time)

Just google 9/11 firefighters for truth and architects and engineers for 9/11 truth. This wouldn't be up for debate if criminals didn't control the media.


Joseph p bell March 19, 2010 8:29 am (Pacific time)

CHECK OUT THE DEPT OF TRANSPORTATION ;DETAILED STATISTICS ;DEPARTURES (KNOWN AS RITA )>? ALL THE PLANES LISTED DEPARTED ON 9/10/2001 ; EXCEPT 93 IT NEVER WENT ANYWHERE . THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT NEWS ..


Fay King March 19, 2010 6:31 am (Pacific time)

I remember seeing a live tv report from Cleveland that morning with the reporter saying AA Flight 77 just landed in the Cleveland airport and was driven to a secure area. They showed live pictures of the large white hangar where the plane was taken. It was on CNN, who were reporting from several cities, just prior to the Pentagon getting hit. I swear I saw that live report yet never saw it again nor can I find it in any archives. Thank you for your important work on this paramount issue.


douglas benson March 19, 2010 4:57 am (Pacific time)

The problem is we let them pull this garbage . When the goverment shut down reports of CIA drug dealing ,even shut down a sixty minute report .Those goverment officials should have been put in prison . Hiding the truth from the American people in whose name our goverment commits these acts [making us responsible ] should be a crime and prosecuted vigorously .


Daniel Johnson March 18, 2010 11:24 pm (Pacific time)

One item that would make the connections would be the testimony of reliable people who lost friends and loved ones on the respective planes. One man killed was the producer or exec-producer of the series Frasier. If he can be positively linked to a specific plane, then it would be fair to conclude that at least one plane was actually involved. But the more disturbing aspect to the whole affair is the apparently wilfull slipshod work of senior government agencies like the FBI, NTSB, etc. I don't know if any Danes were killed on 911, but there is certainly a very strong oder wafting across the Atlantic from Denmark. Can you smell it, too?


Osotan; March 18, 2010 10:50 pm (Pacific time)

DITTO! The bastards think eventually it'll go away thru memory loss and media control. Our eyes tell what happened was not what we were told. Keep on writing sir!


Kipper March 18, 2010 6:41 pm (Pacific time)

Thank You for your commitment to seek out and expose the truth.

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