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May-04-2012 15:37printcomments

Catholic Church Faces Disruption and Banishment as Irish Cardinal Set to Resign

Breaking News for Global Release: A Communiqué from ITCCS International.

ITCCS Ireland Protest outside the Dail, Dublin, April 2010
ITCCS Ireland Protest outside the Dail, Dublin, April 2010

(BRUSSELS AND DUBLIN) - The Roman Catholic Church faces permanent disruption and banishment in at least five countries if it does not comply with ten “non-negotiable measures” by September 15, 2012, according to a global coalition of survivors of church rape and torture.

The list of measures was issued today at a meeting in Dublin, Ireland between Archbishop Dermot Martin and representatives of Anti Catholic Church Activists Worldwide (ACCAW), Magdalene Laundry survivors, and the International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State – Ireland (ITCCS).

The measures demanded of the Catholic Church include the defrocking of all child raping priests, the licensing of all other clergy as public servants, the return of the remains of all who died under Church care, the annulment of tax exemptions and other Church privileges, and the return of all of the Church’s wealth generated by the exploitation of children.

The full statement outlining these measures is reproduced below, including an attached audio recording of the statement.

Issued on the eve of the impending resignation of the head of the Catholic Church in Ireland, Cardinal Sean Brady, for his protection of child raping priests, the statement was delivered by John Deegan of ACCAW and ITCCS Ireland members Gerry O’Donovan and Dave O’Brien, who confronted Archbishop Martin with the demands.

20,000 people oppose Pope Benedict's visit to England, London, September 2010

The Ten Point statement was issued by The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State, an umbrella organization of over fifty organizations in the United States, Canada, Ireland, England and Australia.

“Pope Benedict and his Bishops have until midnight on September 15 to start complying with these measures” said ITCCS Secretary Kevin Annett today.

“After that, we will begin actions to halt the normal operation of the Roman Catholic Church around the world, and we will seek indictments against Pope Benedict and other Vatican officials for crimes against humanity and criminal conspiracy.”

The ACCAW, ITCCS and other groups have staged high profile occupations of Catholic churches during their regular services, and plan to escalate these actions into “a permanent campaign of non-violent disruption and civil disobedience aimed at the Roman Catholic Church … until the Church’s reign of terror over children is ended.”

Issued May 4, 2012 by ITCCS International – Brussels

Information: genocidetribunal@yahoo.ca or 250-591-4573 (Canada) and cliogarvin@hotmail.com or godonothing@gmail.com (Ireland)


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An Open Letter to Archbishop Dermot Martin and the Bishops and Clergy of Ireland, from The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State


Issued to a meeting with Archbishop Martin on May 4, 2012


My name is Kevin Annett and I am the Secretary of the five-nation body known as The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State (ITCCS). I am speaking on behalf of the ITCCS and our affiliate organization in Ireland.

Our coalition represents over fifty organizations in Canada, the United States, Ireland, England and Australia, including many survivors of church terror.

We have also been recognized by seven aboriginal nations in North America, and been authorized by them to recover the remains of their relatives who died in Catholic Indian residential schools and orphanages; and to bring to justice those responsible for the death of over 50,000 children in these church-run institutions.

Let us state clearly that the time for polite talk is over.

The Roman Catholic Church has imposed and is perpetrating a reign of terror and crimes against humanity on generations of children, is actively concealing those crimes and protecting child rapists and murderers in its ranks, and has shown no desire or capacity to change the policies or practices that allow these unspeakable crimes to continue.

Nevertheless, on behalf of the nations and survivors we represent, and the Executive Council of the International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State, I have been authorized to give the Church a final opportunity to change, by presenting the following demands to the Roman Catholic Church in Ireland, as we have already done to Pope Benedict, Joseph Ratzinger, and Vatican officials.

The following concrete actions by the Church are required if justice is to be won for its victims and if the crimes it has committed and continue to cover up are to end.

If the Church fails to abide by these basic commandments of humanity and the law, we will take permanent action to end its criminal regime.

  1. The Church must issue full reparations to all of its victims, including by paying for all of their medical and counseling bills, the cost of their rehabilitation and retraining, and for any of their disabilities and losses.
  2. The Church must surrender for a proper burial, without conditions and at its own expense, the remains of all those who died in its institutions or while under its care.
  3. The Church must return all land and property taken from its victims, and restore all of the wealth generated by its exploitation of them as children, including the wealth created from their unpaid or low paid labor.
  4. The Church must surrender without conditions all of the evidence of its crimes against children, and all of those persons responsible for committing these crimes and concealing them, including its highest officials. The Church must fully disclose this evidence and participate without conditions in all public investigations into its crimes.
  5. The Church and its guilty parties cannot hide behind so-called diplomatic immunity or other privileges to evade justice and avoid prosecution. The Vatican must end its official cover up and annul its policy known as Crimen Sollicitationis, which compels Catholic clergy to conceal crimes committed against children in their parishes.
  6. The Church must immediately expel and defrock all known child raping priests, officials and employees in its ranks, and defrock any clergy who harms a child or conceals such harm.
  7. All clergy and Church officials must agree to be licensed and monitored as public servants, and take a legally binding, public oath to protect without conditions the rights and sanctity of children and disclose any harm done to them.
  8. The Church must forgo and withdraw from all of the tax exemptions, financial concordats and agreements, and other special privileges presently granted to it under the laws of nations.
  9. The Vatican must agree to the annulment of its status as a so-called state, and free its congregations and dioceses from its authority so that they may act according to the wishes and needs of their respective communities and their faith, and not the political and financial requirements of the Vatican.
  10. All of the wealth accumulated by the Church and the Vatican Bank through land theft and conquest, and from tax exemptions, concordats, and from its operations around the world that have harmed children through the exploitation of their labor, such as the Magdalene Laundries and Indian residential schools, must be returned to its victims and to the poor in general through a direct, public redistribution of that wealth, as Christ himself commands.

We have been instructed to inform the Bishops of Ireland, as we have notified the Vatican, that they have until September 15, 2012, to agree to these demands and implement these ten measures.

If they fail to commence to do so by midnight of that date, we will enact the following measures:

  1. The Roman Catholic Church will be formally and forever banished from our communities, and measures will be taken to legally and practically prevent it from operating;
  2. Roman Catholic churches, agencies and offices around the world will be permanently disrupted and occupied as part of an ongoing campaign of non-violent civil disobedience; and
  3. Our International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State will reconvene its court, and will seek the immediate detaining for questioning of the highest officials of your Roman Catholic Church, including Pope Benedict, on charges of obstruction of justice, criminal conspiracy, and crimes against humanity.

It is time for all people of conscience within the Church to choose who they will serve: a self-governing, criminal church system that sets itself above the law and God – or its suffering victims, and justice.

We urge Catholics to choose life, by making these ten steps a reality. Otherwise, the Roman Catholic Church will have forfeited its right to operate in our communities and in our world.

By this declaration, we are lending our active support to the Irish survivors of rape and torture by the Roman Catholic Church who are meeting with Archbishop Martin today. These survivors include members of ACCAW, the ITCCS, and Magdalene laundry victims.

We stand as a united front with these brothers and sisters, and with all victims of Church terror anywhere in the world. We will never stop until justice is achieved, and the reign of terror against children everywhere is ended.

We will be sharing this letter with our affiliates around the world, as well as with the global media, judicial bodies, and governments.

We welcome a formal response from the office of Archbishop Martin, and we call upon the Church to accept the demands and wishes of the Irish survivors who are meeting today with Archbishop Martin.


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Signed on behalf of The Executive Council of The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State

Reverend Kevin D. Annett, ITCCS Secretary
Gerry O’Donovan, ITCCS Ireland
Dave O’Brien, ITCCS Ireland


Issued May 4, 2012 by ITCCS International (Brussels)

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Read the truth of genocide in Canada and globally at:
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www.hiddennolonger.com (includes documentary film Unrepentant
www.hiddenfromhistory.org
www.KevinAnnett.com

"I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man"

- Thomas Jefferson


See this introductory video on The Canadian Holocaust:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqPIh-267fg&feature=related

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A Canadian clergyman, Kevin Annett has for nearly twenty years led the movement to bring to light and prosecute atrocities in Christian “Indian residential schools”, and win justice for survivors. Expelled in 1995 from his former United Church of Canada for exposing murders in that church’s Indian residential schools, and persecuted and blacklisted for his efforts, Kevin is now an award-winning film maker, author, social activist and public lecturer who works with victims of church violence and genocide all over the world. In 2009, he helped to establish the five-nation International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State, which is seeking to indict church and government leaders for crimes against humanity.

As a result of Kevin’s tireless efforts on behalf of native people, the Canadian government was forced to issue a public “apology” and reparations program concerning Indian residential schools, in July of 2008. In giving him the name Eagle Strong Voice in 2007, Anishinabe elder Louis Daniels declared, “Kevin Annett is doing what few of his people have done, and that is to speak about the crimes they committed against many of our nations and their children. He has earned a place forever in our hearts and history. He is a brave and prophetic man. I ask everyone to welcome him and heed his voice.” And scholar Noam Chomsky wrote in 2006, “Kevin Annett is more deserving of the Nobel Peace Prize than many of those who have received it.”

For more information on Kevin and his work, contact him at hiddenfromhistory1@gmail.com, and see these sites:

www.hiddennolonger.com
www.KevinAnnett.com
www.itccs.org
www.hiddenfromhistory.org





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Cult November 23, 2013 8:20 am (Pacific time)

Mind control, behavior control, information control, though control, emotion control. Learn how to leave high control groups like JW's. This group uses heavy indoctrination and brainwashing


the great crowd September 6, 2013 10:02 pm (Pacific time)

brother and sisters, servants of Jehovah, let your quiet peaceful action take place face to face in the ministry when it really counts. defending the truth means nothing here, don't let your anger cloud your judgements into wasting efforts. 2 Corinthians 4:3-6


shun your family, Watchtower 1/2013 May 2, 2013 4:03 am (Pacific time)

19) On the other hand, if you choose the path of resentment toward Jehovah, you will distance yourself from him. Really, what your beloved family member needs to see is your resolute stance to put Jehovah above everything else—including the family bond. So to cope with the situation, be sure to maintain your own spirituality. Do not isolate yourself from your faithful Christian brothers and sisters. (Prov. 18:1) Pour out your feelings to Jehovah in prayer. (Ps. 62:7, 8) Do not look for excuses to associate with a disfellowshipped family member, for example, through e-mail. (1 Cor. 5:11) Stay absorbed in spiritual activities. (1 Cor.15:58) The sister quoted above says, “I know that I must stay busy in Jehovah’s service and keep myself in a spiritually strong condition so that when my daughter does come back to Jehovah, I will be in a position to help her.”


QuestionManIII January 25, 2013 1:28 pm (Pacific time)

anyone know the status of this?


Please Stop December 29, 2012 9:58 pm (Pacific time)

If you are a jw or a student please stop commenting on sites such as these. This does not count as informal witnessing. Remember, what we say and do affects Jehovah's reputation. This is the most important thing. This also makes things harder for all of us to complete our ministry. lets us live quietly and remain united in peace. Agape.

Editor: The people who seek to control you will always ask you to hold your tongue, I suggest that you always let your thoughts and voice be heard and don't listen to people like this.  They are not your friend, they seek your complicity in "keeping things quiet" and that is ridiculous.  Only through spoken truth can we find the answers.


facts and evidence December 5, 2012 7:09 am (Pacific time)

Awake! 1969 May 22p.15: "If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way towards its finish, if not actually gone!" Clearly, WTS has no idea what facts and evidence are.


Henry September 16, 2012 9:09 am (Pacific time)

So, did anything happen? It is now the 16.


Lou Cidity September 14, 2012 11:33 am (Pacific time)

Hopefully they move ahead with their lawsuit.the man of lawlessness is judged first.


Quastie1 September 9, 2012 9:28 am (Pacific time)

Hillary, give up. The fact that you are quoting WT articles from decades ago shows you have nothing better to do with your life than slam JWs. How sad you can't move on with your life.

No JW believes that the WT articles are inspired of God. Only the bible is inspired of God. However, we do believe the WT publications have God's backing, but we also recognize that mistakes have been made in the past. This is because we are an imperfect organization.

I looked up one of your articles in the KM, and it doesn't even exist from the WT library. So why quote things we don't believe in? The fact remains, Jehovah's Witnesses are the only religion on the face of the earth doing the will of God and Christ. And we are the only international brotherhood on the face of the earth. You can't deny that.

DJ Easy to deny. There isn't a religion on earth that doesn't make the same basic claim. How can a reasonable person choose among them? Only one way and that is to reject them all, depending on his power of reasoning to interpret and understand a complex universe. If you want to base your worldview on the myths of bronze age people in the deserts of the Middle East, that's your choice. Your real crime is brainwashing children before they have developed the critical faculties to differentiate sense from nonsense. 


Luke okon August 26, 2012 1:55 pm (Pacific time)

my good brothers & sisters iam very happy to read this titled publication about human right comm' effort to stop all these mess against living beings. fine & commendable but when, who & what preferable measures shall the world require to eliminate such act of inhumanity. It need God's divine interventin through effective prayers.


more hypocrisy August 19, 2012 3:21 pm (Pacific time)

Watchtower 7/1/1943, pg 201: The Vatican belittles Bible study by claiming it is the only organization authorized and qualified to interpret the Bible," Watchtower 2/15/1981: "We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the 'faithful and discreet slave' organization,"


FAITHFUL WITNESS TO THE END August 16, 2012 6:14 pm (Pacific time)

NEUTRAL WE ARE. NEUTRAL WE STAY..JEHOVAH WILL BE THE JUDGE...NO OTHER COMMENTS TO BE MADE.....JEHOVAH WANTS EVERYONE TO GAIN LIFE SO PLS JW STOP CONT IN THIS CONTROVERSY...WE ARE COMMANDED TO PREACH GOOD NEWS RIGHT NOW FROM DOOR-DOOR...THIS IS WASTING PRECIOUS TIME WHEN LIVES ARE AT STAKE IN YOUR TERRITORIES....nice comment made by JWLONGTIME May 23, 2012 2:00 pm and especially...seek righteousness May 23, 2012 10:31 am...keep strong our dear ones...THANK YOU....


Anonymous August 16, 2012 4:52 am (Pacific time)

What the People of the Last Days Are Like The apostle Paul writes: “In the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here.” He then goes on to list 20 personality traits that would characterize ungodly people. Have you observed some of these characteristics in those living in your community? Consider what has been said in recent times about the people of today. “Fierce.” (2 Timothy 3:3) “Irrational anger and uncontrolled rage [are] seen on the road, in abuse within families, . . . and [in] the apparently gratuitous and unnecessary violence which often accompanies crime. Violence is experienced as random and unpredictable and people are left feeling disconnected and vulnerable.”—Business Day, newspaper, South Africa. “Lovers of themselves.” (2 Timothy 3:2) “[People are] insistent on doing their own thing as never before. [They] are becoming gods, and expect to be treated as such.”—Financial Times, newspaper, England. “Lovers of money.” (2 Timothy 3:2) “The ego of materialism has in recent times overpowered the spirit of modesty. Unless you are seen as rich in society your life is not worth living.”—Jakarta Post, newspaper, Indonesia. “Disobedient to parents.” (2 Timothy 3:2) “Parents are puzzled to find their 4-year-old ordering them around like he’s [French King] Louis XIV or their 8-year-old screaming, ‘I hate you!’”—American Educator, magazine, United States. “Disloyal.” (2 Timothy 3:2) “The vastly increased willingness of men to leave behind partners and children constitutes perhaps the single greatest change in moral values during the [past 40 years].”—Wilson Quarterly, magazine, United States. “Having no natural affection.” (2 Timothy 3:3) “Family violence is the dominant factor in the everyday life of communities around the world.”—Journal of the American Medical Association, magazine, United States. “Without self-control.” (2 Timothy 3:3) “Many stories that occur on the newspaper’s front page every morning reflect minds lacking self control, moral fibre and mercy towards their fellow human beings and even themselves. . . . If our society continues to favour aggression the way it is now, our society will soon enter a phase of moral annihilation.”—Bangkok Post, newspaper, Thailand. “Lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God.” (2 Timothy 3:4) “Sexual liberation has become a moral crusade, in which Christian morality is the enemy.”—Boundless, an Internet magazine. “Having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power.” (2 Timothy 3:5) “[A former prostitute in the Netherlands] acknowledged that opposition to legalization [of prostitution] comes largely from religious groups. She paused, then said with a grin that when she was a prostitute, several [religious] ministers were among her regulars. ‘Prostitutes always say their best clients are from the religious community,’ she laughed.”—National Catholic Reporter, newspaper, United States Only those standing in an approved condition before the Son of man, Jesus, will have the prospect of surviving the end of this system of things. How vital that we use the remaining time to seek the approval of Jehovah God and Jesus Christ! In prayer to God, Jesus said: “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.” (John 17:3) It is, then, the course of wisdom on your part to learn more about Jehovah God and his requirements. Jehovah’s Witnesses in your community will be happy to assist you in understanding what the Bible teaches. You have our warm invitation to contact them or to write to the publishersof this magazine. FEATURES OF THE LAST DAYS MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS: • Wars.—Matthew 24:6, 7. • Food shortages.—Matthew 24:7. • Earthquakes.—Matthew 24:7. • Pestilences.—Luke 21:11. • Increasing lawlessness.—Matthew 24:12. • Ruining of the earth.—Revelation 11:18. PEOPLE: • Lovers of themselves.—2 Timothy 3:2. • Lovers of money.—2 Timothy 3:2. • Haughty.—2 Timothy 3:2. • Disobedient to parents.—2 Timothy 3:2. • Unthankful.—2 Timothy 3:2. • Disloyal.—2 Timothy 3:2. • Lacking natural affection.—2 Timothy 3:3. • Without self-control.—2 Timothy 3:3. • Fierce.—2 Timothy 3:3. • Lovers of pleasures.—2 Timothy 3:4. • Religious hypocrites.—2 Timothy 3:5. TRUE WORSHIPPERS: • Possess abundant knowledge.—Daniel 12:4. • Preach the good news worldwide.—Matthew 24:14.


expositor August 9, 2012 6:46 pm (Pacific time)

Up the board, a JW mentioned their teaching that Christ is on a white horse "riding to complete his conquest". That horse, found at Rev. 6 is not Jesus. It's man-rule. Followed by three other horses, always. Jesus is on the 'true' white horse later in Revelation, and He is clearly identified by His own shed blood on his clean white garment. Watchtower has put Jesus in the role of evil men, and Watchtower will pay for this error.


JLH July 17, 2012 2:27 pm (Pacific time)

Not to mention the Genocide they did to my brothers in Rhawanda killing them like they were animals..they WILL face Jehovah one day.


Anonymous July 16, 2012 6:53 am (Pacific time)

"IN THE Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the United Nations has proclaimed that childhood is entitled to special care and assistance," states the preamble of the Convention on the Rights of the Child. Regarding the importance of the family, it adds: "The child, for the full and harmonious development of his or her personality, should grow up in a family environment, in an atmosphere of happiness, love and understanding." Yet, this ideal is far from being achieved. Just talking about a better world for children is not enough. Moral degeneration is rampant, and many people consider the situation normal. Widespread depravity and greed cannot be controlled by law enforcement. Even parents, rather than showing love and protecting their children, often contribute to the climate of permissiveness. What hope, then, do we have for an end to child prostitution? Although this corrupt system has failed to ensure that all children are given a loving home and a secure future, our Creator will soon eliminate every kind of perversity and promiscuity, including child prostitution. Soon, surprisingly for the world, God will intervene in human affairs by means of his Kingdom. Corrupters and exploiters will not escape divine judgment. Only people who love their fellowmen will survive to live in God's new world. "The upright are the ones that will reside in the earth, and the blameless are the ones that will be left over in it. As regards the wicked, they will be cut off from the very earth; and as for the treacherous, they will be torn away from it."—Proverbs 2:21, 22. Imagine the relief when both children and adults will be able to live without degradation and sexual abuse! Even the emotional and physical harm caused by exploitation and violence will be things of the past. Former victims of sexual exploitation will be able to live without disturbing memories or aftereffects. "The former things will not be called to mind, neither will they come up into the heart."—Isaiah 65:17. Then, no child will be born to suffer mistreatment or sexual abuse. Happiness, love, and understanding will be no mere dream. About the inhabitants of God's new world, Isaiah 11:9 declares: "They will not do any harm or cause any ruin." "IN THE Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the United Nations has proclaimed that childhood is entitled to special care and assistance," states the preamble of the Convention on the Rights of the Child. Regarding the importance of the family, it adds: "The child, for the full and harmonious development of his or her personality, should grow up in a family environment, in an atmosphere of happiness, love and understanding." Yet, this ideal is far from being achieved. Just talking about a better world for children is not enough. Moral degeneration is rampant, and many people consider the situation normal. Widespread depravity and greed cannot be controlled by law enforcement. Even parents, rather than showing love and protecting their children, often contribute to the climate of permissiveness. What hope, then, do we have for an end to child prostitution? Although this corrupt system has failed to ensure that all children are given a loving home and a secure future, our Creator will soon eliminate every kind of perversity and promiscuity, including child prostitution. Soon, surprisingly for the world, God will intervene in human affairs by means of his Kingdom. Corrupters and exploiters will not escape divine judgment. Only people who love their fellowmen will survive to live in God's new world. "The upright are the ones that will reside in the earth, and the blameless are the ones that will be left over in it. As regards the wicked, they will be cut off from the very earth; and as for the treacherous, they will be torn away from it."—Proverbs 2:21, 22. Imagine the relief when both children and adults will be able to live without degradation and sexual abuse! Even the emotional and physical harm caused by exploitation and violence will be things of the past. Former victims of sexual exploitation will be able to live without disturbing memories or aftereffects. "The former things will not be called to mind, neither will they come up into the heart."—Isaiah 65:17. Then, no child will be born to suffer mistreatment or sexual abuse. Happiness, love, and understanding will be no mere dream. About the inhabitants of God's new world, Isaiah 11:9 declares: "They will not do any harm or cause any ruin." Indeed, what a joy it will be when poverty, drug abuse, unhappy families, and moral badness are no more! Peace, righteousness, and security will reign. "My people must dwell in a peaceful abiding place and in residences of full confidence and in undisturbed resting-places."—Isaiah 32:18.


definition July 14, 2012 7:38 pm (Pacific time)

Mind control is a process that mobilizes group dynamics and phobia indoctrination to compel group members to submit to the group's leadership and objectives. Following the crowd is part of human nature, and cultic circles of influence use this impulse to literally transform people through psychologically abusive means that the prospective member is completely unaware of. This is done through the control of their thoughts, and subsequently, their behavior. Over and over, cults emphasize that God has provided only one source of enlightenment, only one standard of truth – and it is whatever interpretation of Scripture or human philosophy the leaders provide. Cultists catch on they can’t trust their own reasoning, except as properly patterned after the cult leadership thinking. It is, after all, the only way they can truly know God’s will.
Jehovah's Witnesses are no different than anyone else in that they are as human as their non-Witness neighbors. This fact alone explains the success of the incredibly pervasive and lifelong exposure to mind control techniques intentionally wielded by the Watchtower in its effort to consolidate the loyalty of and control over their members. New congregational social circles, Watchtower book studies, and numerous meetings and field ministry requirements are all used to implant the isolating and manipulative devices that the Society uses to control Witnesses and those studying with them. How many family members can testify to the distressing transformation that occurs to a loved one who starts to study with Jehovah Witness pioneers! In a matter of months, they completely change to individuals whose lives are completely centered around the rule of obedience to the Watchtower, and family relationships are often shattered or severely strained as their Watchtower indoctrination relentlessly remolds them into compliant Society membership.

What are some of these "devices"? Steven Hassan has created the "BITE" acronym (2) to help define four critical areas of control cult groups must focus upon among their social circles to effectively achieve cultic mind control (control of Behavior, Information, Thought and Emotions). These characteristics of cultic control are prevalent among Jehovah's Witnesses and again, we assert, they are well hidden:

behavior control - A comprehensive and never-ending effort is put forth by the Society to enforce a clearly defined, scrupulously detailed and rigidly enforced standard of conduct among all Witnesses. Society publications, social interaction and frequent "role-play" dramatizations in public meetings ensure that they are continually reminded of what is good behavior and what is "conduct unbecoming a Christian," as they would say. The pages of the Awake! and The Watchtower magazines are filled with prescriptive teachings on how to act in a wide variety of different situations; the constant readiness for Witnesses to rehearse their unsolicited wisdom to householders on how to beat a cold or do grocery shopping is a singularly striking example of this.
information control - The Watchtower views its authority as part of "theocratic order" and a loyal submission by all Witnesses to it a serious test of fellowship. No more sure a test of this submission is how willingly Jehovah's Witnesses will "avoid independent thinking" (3) and reject any sources of information that may lead to critical thinking. The immediate response of Jehovah's Witnesses, upon being confronted with individuals or literature that question the authority of the Watchtower, is to demonize the questioner as unspiritual and blind and/or reject or destroy the literature. Witnesses surfing the World Wide Web and who view counter-cult websites (such as this one) do so under pain of harsh congregational sanction. Indeed, any and all information that contradicts and brings into question the Watchtower is viewed as spiritual pornography and must be vigorously shunned.
thought control - Randy Watters has helpfully observed that the Watchtower's campaign to control the minds of Jehovah's Witnesses has gone so far as to result in the creation of "thought-stopping" cliches used frequently in Witness social circles (4). These cliches are the vocabulary, expressions and slang that Witnesses use among themselves to put any given situation or individual into an instant context that compels them to view it as the Society wishes it to be seen, and therefore, thought of (former JW David Reed calls it "Jehovah-talk"). Usage of phrases like "rebellious," "whole-souled", "opposer", "loyalty" and "wicked system", each with a very specific and clear-cut meaning, are part and parcel of Witness thought. Remembered or used in the right order at the right time keeps the Witness in lockstep with Society expectations and a Society worldview. This is just one of many ways thought is controlled or even stopped in the minds of Jehovah's Witnesses.
emotional control - The human capacity to both suffer guilt and quail in fear is exploited to an unspeakably insidious way by the Society to reinforce the black and white mentality of the Watchtower's worldview. Fears of a demon-haunted world, of the fate of non-Witness loved ones, of an impending Armageddon, of not being "remembered" by Jehovah in the resurrection, and above all, of being expelled from the Society are always in the back of Witness minds and hearts. Guilt over not working "hard enough" for Jehovah, for having sinful thoughts (such as questioning the local leadership), for neglecting study meetings, and for being unable to meet the code of conduct of a "clean organization" are also woeful companions for many, many Witnesses. This terrible internal pressure is subtly yet unmistakably paranoiac and has caused untold trauma to many Witnesses unable to withstand the mental stress. And to resolve this, the Witness constituency is endlessly admonished to bury themselves in faithful service to the organization, and to trust that Jehovah will take care of it all. Relief is then contingent upon service, and those who struggle emotionally are often viewed as lacking somewhere in that area


ladd July 4, 2012 9:18 pm (Pacific time)

it will happen at the time of his choosing--babylon thhe great is the false religion


more direct quotes from WT June 24, 2012 4:11 pm (Pacific time)

WATCHTOWER March 1,1923,p67
"The scriptures show that his second presence was due in 1874...This proof shows that the LORD has been present since 1874....."

WATCHTOWER, Jan 1924.p5
"Surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of God that the LORD JESUS is present & has been since "1874"


no offense intended June 22, 2012 1:37 pm (Pacific time)

Would you be kind enough to scroll down to comments made on 5/30 at 3:34 PM, 6/2 at 8:26 AM, 6/2 at 8:53 AM, 6/5 at 5:10 PM. These comments point out about 9 different publications of yours which clearly have false information,false teachings, and false dates for Armageddon. Deut 18:19-22 is very clear about false prophets. If it is said in the name of the Lord and it doesn't come true, it didn't originate from the Lord. All of your teachings are made in God's name. This is not persecution. These are valid points


A Witness3 June 22, 2012 1:49 am (Pacific time)

The words of both Jesus and John plainly indicate that the antichrist is not a single person but is made up of many individual antichrists. Moreover, because they are false prophets, one of their main objectives is religious deception. What are some of their devices? A DECEIVER WITH MANY FACES The word “antichrist” applies to all who deny what the Bible says about Jesus Christ, all who oppose his Kingdom, and all who mistreat his followers. It also includes individuals, organizations, and nations that falsely claim to represent Christ or that improperly ascribe to themselves the role of Messiah by presumptuously promising to achieve that which only Christ can do—bring about true peace and security. Because the Antichrist support the political systems of the world, many religious leaders have opposed, even persecuted, those who proclaim the truth about God’s Kingdom. Interestingly, the Bible book of Revelation mentions a symbolic harlot—“Babylon the Great”—who is “drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus.” (Revelation 17:4-6) She also practices spiritual harlotry by lending her support to earth’s “kings,” or political rulers, receiving favors in return. This symbolic woman is none other than the false religions of the world. She is a major part of the antichrist.—Revelation 18:2, 3; James 4:4.


Dark Night of the Soul June 21, 2012 12:21 pm (Pacific time)

The Vaticans crimes are legion. It has reigned through fear and deception. However, it will remain in power as long as there are fools to follow and support it. I hope and pray people will have their eyes opened to the truth that the RCC is a brutal false religion deserving of censure,scorn, and abandonment.


MySoulisEternal June 19, 2012 2:52 pm (Pacific time)

Wow, JW's. : ( Instead of clearing up misunderstandings, explaining doctrine, and exemplifying Jesus' temperment , most of you proved the other posters 'right'. I am very disappointed with the violent rhetoric, justification, and ignoring of valid questions. Now, I can't help but wonder what you're hiding when you come to chat at my door...


noname June 19, 2012 11:58 am (Pacific time)

Hilary... clearly for you the light has not gotten brighter and brighter. In society, someone has to always be the bigger person, in this case it isn't you. Its okay to be wrong or have mis understood something, but whats important is to get the right answer and clear up the confusion. Why is that so hard to understand? I just pray God has mercy on you for condeming his servants.


Hillary June 19, 2012 8:19 am (Pacific time)

Clearly a cult


anonymous June 19, 2012 3:57 am (Pacific time)

Cult


GODSFIST117 June 18, 2012 8:07 am (Pacific time)

soon enough my brothers n sisters this will soon fall at is own breach, this world has become rotten from the footsteps of evil and soon babylon will fall, this time of peace we're in is almost over, and the pigs that run this hyppocratic society will sure enough burn in the fires they all started, no matter what any other worldy person ought will soon be at the quenching of their gnashing teeth, my brothers n sisters remain strong, refrain from these mieleading tongues, soon the fires will creep from among the clouds and cover the filth ritten world we stand today, for everlasting life is soon to be, I know we all grow tired and restless of this denying world, but remain steadfast cuz there are many sheep covered goats in our society witch Jesus himself is removing as we speak, for Jehova of armys is here with us throughout these evil times. be strong my brothers n sisters.


A Witness2 June 18, 2012 7:29 am (Pacific time)

He went forth conquering and to complete his conquest – Rev 6:2 Christ was enthroned as King of Jehovah’s Messianic Kingdom in 1914. The Psalms and the book of Revelation depict him as an energetic king on horseback, ridding forth “conquering and to complete his conquest,” continuing to ultimate “success.” (Ps 2:6-9; 45:1-4) Christ’s first kingly action after his enthronement was his victory over “the dragon and its angels.” As the archangel Michael in command of his angels, Christ hurled Satan and his demons out of the holy heavens and confined then to the vicinity of the earth. (Rev 12:7-9) Then, in his role as Jehovah’s messenger of the covenant,” Jesus came with his Father to carry out an inspection of the spiritual temple. (Mal 3:1) He judged Christendom, the most reprehensible part of “Babylon the Great,” finding her guilty of bloodshed and of spiritual adultery with the political system of this world. Rev 18:2, 3, 24.


CDC June 17, 2012 11:34 pm (Pacific time)

his remaining sheep will know his voice and follow him by his brothers direction to the father JEHOVAH he that has ears will listen, and see, and know... Those ones misdirected by information they take and misdirecting it will allso be misdirected; TRUTH IS CLEAR and SIMPLE FOR THE MEEK and HUMBLE AT HEART !!! Mathew 7:21--clear that you can do the will of the father / by exercising faith in the CHRIST JESUS


anonymous June 17, 2012 11:43 am (Pacific time)

The "Chairman's Address: Why We Must Safeguard Our Heart" begins by giving us a working definition of the "figurative heart": it is the whole inner person; all thoughts, intentions, feelings, emotions, goals, dispositions. Essentially what they have in mind is a person's self-concept -- everything you believe yourself to be. That's all well and good, but why do we need to "safeguard our heart" or safeguard our self-concept? Here's where things get tricky. The speaker gave five reasons why we should "safeguard our heart": -the heart naturally inclines to "bad", and is attracted to "wrong" -the heart is desperate, treacherous. It makes excuses, is likely to deceive you, and excuses wrongdoing -if your heart turns away from God, your current life will be desolate -the condition of your heart will determine whether you gain everlasting life or not in the future -you want to please God In the end, these aren't really reasons why a person should "safeguard their heart"; rather, they are psychological tools designed to undermine a person's normal self-concept and help create self doubt, anxiety, and fear. These concepts condition the listener to view their very own self as the "enemy inside" rather than an ally and trustworthy friend. And the stakes are high: not only will your life right now be "desolate" if you trust this deceptive inner voice; you also stand to lose out on "everlasting life." Suppressing one's natural sense of self thus allows the separate "cult self" to surface and await further and more extreme programming. The symposium "Beware of Dangerous Heart Conditions!" amounts to yet another assault on the accepting listener's self-concept. Especially notable was the part on "Double Heart" which heightens the anxiety of those whose cult self shares mental space with their true self. In fact, the speaker warned that "figurative double-heartedness results in everlasting death." Again, out of fear and anxiety, any natural sense of self should be suppressed as there is only room for the cult self. By the end of the morning, they've done a pretty good job of weakening an individual's true sense of self. In their loaded language, they call it "cultivating a prepared heart." In reality, the true self has been compromised, and even the cult self has been softened up, ready to accept further conditioning and indoctrination. Let's take a look at some of what gets programmed into this cult self later in the session: "Avoid Testing God In Your Heart" offers a list of requirements for the cult self: -do not murmur about organizational adjustments -do not even secretly doubt the organization's view of disfellowshipping -higher education is unnecessary to find 'acceptable' secular work -spiritual food comes only from the Faithful Slave; independent study groups are not necessary -God's sole channel of communication is the Faithful and Discreet Slave -do not doubt the validity of theocratic appointments -do not view apostate propaganda which "picks at" the Slave Class -Jesus said "He that is not on my side is against me" The "Sound Drama" offers further instructions: -unfulfilled expectations of when the system will end are no reason for discouragement -truth is revealed progressively: expect doctrine clarification -only the Faithful and Discreet Slave illuminates the Scriptures for us -do not harbor doubts as to whether Jesus is ruling as king of his kingdom -the Faithful and Discreet Slave gives ample evidence that we are in the last days and that Jesus is ruling as king At this point, let me add that the bulleted points are not my "take" on what was said at the convention. These are direct quotes from the podium, most likely from manuscript talks. It becomes quite obvious that the listener's weakened sense of self is being exploited to bolster shaky spots in doctrine, manipulate emotions related to loyalty to the organization, and harden the perimeter of information control. The thought control at this point is hardly even disguised, and it doesn't need to be. As the audience member's "figurative heart" or true self-concept has been reduced to tatters, the cult self eagerly steps in to assuage the individual's doubts and uncertainties, nestling itself in the comforting arms of the organization.


Hillary June 11, 2012 6:12 pm (Pacific time)

"Effort" to clear out false doctrines??? What a joke. Just look at all of the false teachings and false doctrines in your past and in your present literature. Wake up. Your self proclaimed "faithful and discreet slave" is not God's channel of communication. You're being held captive by a concept. Read and research thoroughly.


Johnson June 11, 2012 1:23 pm (Pacific time)

Hillary, the fact that you mention about the changing meaning of the "Generation" means that you have been observing. But tell me which other Christian organization really made an effort to clear out false doctrines from its teachings (example: Hell, Trinity, etc) and really put effort into cleaning all the paganity that has stained religions today. As for the faith of cruel religious leaders and their false teachings, the Bible is clear when it says that they will be annilihated. Keep on the watch!!


NEUTRAL June 11, 2012 10:27 am (Pacific time)

DEAR, FRIENDS PLEASE STAY OUT OF THIS. AND JUST KEEP ON THE WATCH!


Hillary June 7, 2012 3:43 am (Pacific time)

What happened to your generation of 1914??? What happened to 1914 + 70 and then 1914 + 80??? How many times have you changed the definition of the word generation (I believe 5 or 6 times). What about all your other false predictions, flip flops, doctrinal changes, and false info in your literature?


jwd June 6, 2012 7:06 pm (Pacific time)

Rev 17:17 will soon be fulfilled


Hillary June 6, 2012 3:44 am (Pacific time)

You are nothing more than a doomsday cult engaging in blind speculation for the last 130+ years. Look at all of the previous quotes I copied and pasted from your own literature. There are many more that I didn't post. You think your org is the sole channel of communication with God and that God will only save people in your org. Typical cult beliefs that thrive on guilt and fear-mongering.


TREBLED June 5, 2012 7:10 pm (Pacific time)

JUNE 05,2012. BABYLON THE GREAT WILL CERTAINLY FALL AND BE DESTROYED WHEN JEHOVAH SAYS THE TIME IS NOW. THESE PEOPLE THRETNING THE RCs ARE NOT A PART OF JEHOVAH'S PLAN


Hillary June 5, 2012 5:10 pm (Pacific time)

Awake! 1968 Oct 8 p.13 "The fact that fifty-four years of the period called the "last days" have already gone by is highly significant. It means that only a few years, at most, remain before the corrupt system of things dominating the earth is destroyed by God."


Michael June 5, 2012 3:17 pm (Pacific time)

Leave them as they are brothers and sisters the fight is not our leave all things in the Hands of Jehovah take your stand firm for the truth and you will see his saving power shortly many will say this or that its just a fight of words our energy using it to saves lives from satans world is pleasing to gog and to his son.


me-3 June 5, 2012 9:54 am (Pacific time)

This is bound to happen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPhDSTSPQBc


Hillary June 2, 2012 8:53 am (Pacific time)

Awake! Magazine, 1969 May 22 p.15 "If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. ... Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in highschool and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!"


Hillary June 2, 2012 8:26 am (Pacific time)

Kingdom Ministry, March 1968, p. 4: "Just think, brothers, there are only about 90 months left before 6,000 years of man's existence on earth is completed. Do you remember what we learned at the assemblies last summer? The majority of people living on earth today will probably be alive when Armageddon breaks out." Kingdom Ministry, June 1969, p. 3: "In view of the short time left, a decision to pursue a career in this system of things is not only unwise but extremely dangerous.... Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world's end."


Gerald Lissieri June 1, 2012 1:58 pm (Pacific time)

disgusting catholic pigs...these pigs have the gall to judge other people and their religions throughout the centuries, when this church organization during those SAME centuries has fostered wars, bloody crusades, beheadings, inquisitions, racism, village massacres, mob riots, false accusations, political meddling and espionage, general ignorance of billions, and turned a blind eye to evil and injustice--all in the name of christ and of their "holy" church. It's the biggest BS in christendom!


Niki May 31, 2012 2:17 am (Pacific time)

Menof faith know that throughout history the crimes committed in liberty's name have been exceeded only by those committed in the name of God meaning Christendom.


Hillary May 30, 2012 3:34 pm (Pacific time)

@ Robert,the 8/15/68 magazine "why are you looking forward to 1975." Every magazine thru 10/22/95 said "the Creator's promise of a peaceful and secure new world before the generation that saw the event of 1914 passes away." 1918 issue of "millions now living will never die" says "therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob." Page 154 of you can live forever in paradise on earth says "some of the generation living in 1914 will see the end of the system of things and survive it." 1889 issue "the time is at hand" pg 101 "the battle of the great day of Gold Almighty which will end in 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership is already commenced"


ROBERT May 30, 2012 12:57 pm (Pacific time)

there are indeed molesters in all religions--the response from me was to the accusation that Witnesses just give a "slap on the wrist". As to the dates mentioned, please provide verifications. Armagedon could happen at any date--just human nature to speculate.


Hillary May 29, 2012 6:32 pm (Pacific time)

@Robert, they certainly did predict that Armageddon would occur in 1975, 1925, 1914. It's in your literature, was spoken from your meetings, assemblies, and conventions


ROBERT May 29, 2012 4:38 pm (Pacific time)

Jehovah's Witnesses remove child molesters from the congregation: do not protect them .Jehovah's Witnesses did not predict the end of the world in any year---verify this claim.They have only speculated as to possibilities--inacurate speculations hardly equate to child sexual abuse cover-ups.

Editor: Robert, no matter who you are, you can not state anything for that many people, there are child molestation problems in every religious institution, no point in arguing that. 


tierra blount May 29, 2012 6:28 am (Pacific time)

thats what they get them gey pope catholic church need to be shut down


JustaRegularGuy May 29, 2012 2:41 am (Pacific time)

This is the first I've heard of this action. If it comes off I will be very happy. I find it hard to believe that any informed person can be happy to call themselves a roman catholic, when the overwhelming bulk of evidence indicates that for many decades men, professing to walk in the footesteps of JEsus Christ, have systematically raped thousands of innocent boys and girls, using their ill-gotten respect in the community to hide their wicked behaviour. Their Sins have massed clear up to Heaven. We await their demise.


Hillary May 28, 2012 7:36 am (Pacific time)

Lol. What happened to 1975, 1925, 1914 and all of the other years that you predicted "the end". You have had more false prophecies in the last century than any other religion. Harold Camping pales in comparison


Sue May 27, 2012 6:54 pm (Pacific time)

I agree with Dan's thoughts May 21st.


Mike May 27, 2012 2:28 pm (Pacific time)

Is it April 1 ?


Caroline Leech May 26, 2012 9:53 pm (Pacific time)

Revelation 18:2-4  "She has fallen, Babylon the Great has fallen........Get out of her my people........


at a loss for words May 27, 2012 8:13 am (Pacific time)

We have 1 commission that is to preach the GOOD news of salvation. Not get involved in this mess


Kneekap Hubert Nikal May 26, 2012 12:45 am (Pacific time)

Well it has been a long time coming for Mr. Kevin Annett would tell the truth of the Rome Catholic St. School has done in the past and thinking that the church and the Pope Benedict and his Bishops and others Vatican Officials of the Crimes against humanity and Criminal Conspiracy Came out, Thank you Kevin Annett for bring it out to the world, even thou few of the brothers and sisters have gone to the other side meaning the Spirit World!


Anonymous May 25, 2012 3:42 pm (Pacific time)

SORRY SORRY SORRY


Anonymous May 25, 2012 3:41 pm (Pacific time)

Former Believer, You must remember that Jehovah does not approve of anyone hurting another and if that happens within believe what the bible says sinners will be destroyed, man can only do so much. What are you able to do or accomplish in assuring that no man sins? Jehovah says vengeance is his he will repay no matter who it is, where they are at and what religion they are apart of. If you have a family are they all perfect, Jehovah understands he has those who profess to be servants of him and is not, they will not make it. So don’t shun the truth. Jesus said of his father his word is truth.


Anonymous May 25, 2012 3:34 pm (Pacific time)

I like your comment Bible Study May 16,2012 Jehovah will do the directing of Babylon The Great falling. Man will play the role of destruction and saying too bad babylon your great city.


Former beliver now enlighten May 24, 2012 5:28 am (Pacific time)

You all need to get off of whatever pulpit you are on. 1. The church and those who run it should be held responsible for their crimes. 2 That includes JW's who need to flush out the child molsters that are in their ranks. No they don't turn them over to the authorities if they say I repent for my sins, they are spanked on the hands and sent back to do it again. 3. Protestants and Moslems are no better. They have the same things going on in their church.


True Christian's United May 23, 2012 7:38 pm (Pacific time)

Satan Behind us! Your cause is being led by satan. Jesus has already won the battle! Repent or perish in the name of Jesus! Amen!


JWLONGTIME May 23, 2012 2:00 pm (Pacific time)

I am appalled by the number of Jehovah's Witnesses stooping so low as to get involved in this article and controversy. This is no way to witness.


seek righteousness May 23, 2012 10:31 am (Pacific time)

Friends, we are foolish to comment or get involved with this. Jehovah's earthly servants are to be SILENT OBSERVERS to the goings on of the world of politics and false relegion. Unless they interfere directly with the preaching work. That work is not over yet, this means there may be many more from the catholic relegion who have a genuine love for God and who will be attracted to the truth. Will it be your comments that attract them? remember we are to be "as cautious as serpents and as MEEK as doves."


christina Tchir May 23, 2012 9:56 am (Pacific time)

This is about time this is all about time the filly things the catholics have been doing to the children.


Zonian1955 May 23, 2012 8:00 am (Pacific time)

To Anonymous May 21, 2012 12:49 pm (Pacific time) You need to get your facts straight before you put your foot in your mouth. Jehovah's Witnesses do report thos that do such terrible things. I know because I am one of many that has done so.I will be the first to say that this has happened but it has been delt with. You are most likely listening to those who are disgruntled with the Witnesses. Maybe you need to look at the curch you belong to and not worry about ours.


Linda Kleinsteiber May 22, 2012 7:19 pm (Pacific time)

It's about time that the Catholics are seen as false prophets and a false religion.  They are a bunch of liars, worshipers of idols and so far from the truth I can't believe they still exist. Jehovah should have blasted them off the face off the earth along time ago.

Editor: 'Blasted them off the face of the earth'? 

Do you fail to understand how Genocidal that sounds Linda?  This is about the church, not the people.  God would never support your harsh suggestion, believe me.  This is like any political matter, it is not about eliminating people, geez. God Bless Bobby Sands and the Tamil Bishops in Sri Lanka, there are good and bad people in all organizations, all walks of life.  Concentrate on Rome and clergy and leadership, not the individual human beings, please...


DMS May 22, 2012 7:31 pm (Pacific time)

This is indeed Bible prophecy.


Dangers of Religion May 22, 2012 7:11 pm (Pacific time)

Respect all the people of the earth, don't take yourself too seriously, you probably aren't perfect yourself, please expose injustice as this is vital, then pursue justice in non-violent ways. Still, the editors here also seem to have an agenda that is not simply explained. The original 10 demands probably go a bit too far in their general claims but I think action needs to be taken. Pressure needs to be put on the criminals for sure and all the best with that quest.


Rosa May 22, 2012 11:53 am (Pacific time)

I agree in part that some kind of apology and benefit to help this unfortunate children be done by the church .But in no way are all cases true. and therefore an investigation should be put into place by the Vatican to punish the those guilty of such a crime .as far as the bloody ant-christ placing itself into power in the Vatican .Lets just say .Over my dead body .We are the Holy army of God and that will never happen .Keep your filthy paws away from the Holy father and His sacred Servaten .You defiled Beast .We know all your tricks but :You will never succed in getting your pows on the Pope nor in their wealth!Church previlages come from God and not man .


green May 22, 2012 6:24 am (Pacific time)

Rev.17:17 Jehovah will put it in there hearts. We need to be good children and wait quitely on him.


FORMER JW May 21, 2012 4:36 pm (Pacific time)

JESUS SAID "FOLLOW ME" not FOLLOW AN ORGANIZATION


James of Nashville May 21, 2012 12:22 pm (Pacific time)

Just Remember, For every finger pointed at a sinner...three more are pointed back at you. Liars, adulterers, murderers, thieves... anger, self-rigtousness, hypocrisy, arrogance. When your threw persecuting the innocent with the guilty...who will your next targets be. The spirit of the anti christ pervades this man and his lynch mob minions.


Mariel May 21, 2012 11:10 am (Pacific time)

I have taken a "pause" on attending any church, Protestant or Catholic.  I tend to think the blame can be spread around.  There is no utopia coming from these social efforts, even though they are worthwhile in exposing evil.


Dan May 21, 2012 10:44 am (Pacific time)

friends, till you read it in the WT, It is best not to comment on this. You may find yourself fighting against the Holy Spirit.


Jeffrey May 21, 2012 2:17 pm (Pacific time)

In a U.N. Posting for discussion in June, it has been noted that a number of countries have already contacted their representitives there to voice this same complaint to them, and they state that it will be addressed as it only adds "fuel to the fire" on their feelings toward organized religion....duh! The U.N. is involved...


Anonymous May 21, 2012 12:49 pm (Pacific time)

NUFF SAID. YES JEHOAH SAYS VENGANCE IS MINE I WILL REPAY. BABYLON THE GEAT MUST FALL(WORLD EMPIRE OF FALSE RELIGEON)ESPECAILLY CHRISTENDOM WHO CLAIM TO REPRESENT GOD. THEY ARE THE MOST REPREHENSIBLE. THEY HAVE NOT CARED FOR THE FLOCK THEY HAVE NOT FED HIS SHEEP THEY WILL BE DESTROYED. THE BIBLE SAY WITH A SWIFT PITCH. JEHOVAH WILL PUT THE ONE THOUGH INTO THE MINE OF ALL THE POLITICAL GOVERNMENTS TO CARRY OUT THIS DESTRUCTION. COME LORD JESUS..AMEN...


Sister May 21, 2012 12:17 pm (Pacific time)

Get a grip "Friends" This news article has been passed around among us in an email entitled "Catholic Church Faces Disruption and Banishment as Irish Cardinal Set to Resign". This is not the fulfillment of any bible prophecy. It is a news release from a survivors support group. Calm down.


Not Slumbering May 19, 2012 2:31 pm (Pacific time)

Dear Brothers and Sisters, this is an exciting development. We must remember, however, that Christ's Brother's will direct us when to release the hailstone the size of a talent. Till then, we are lights, and salt of the earth.


listening May 19, 2012 8:43 am (Pacific time)

I can appreciate enthusiasm, but there are other emotions having nothing to do with the fruitages of the spirit stearing comments in the wrong direction. James 1:19 "Every man must be swift about hearing, slow about speaking.." From what I have read Jehovah's witnesses have been seriously misrepresented by comments from those who are either studying or not yet having an accurate understanding. This is not a wise place to discuss scripture.Proverbs 14:29 and Proverbs 15:4


elbee May 19, 2012 6:11 am (Pacific time)

Bye bye Babylon the great!!!


A Witness May 18, 2012 10:17 pm (Pacific time)

This puts me to mind a prophacy that Jesus said in Luke 16:19-25. That prophacy is often mistaken for a litteral sense. But think of this: jesus always taught his desiples with an ILLISTRATION. And an illistration this is. 19 “But a certain man was rich, and he used to deck himself with purple and linen, enjoying himself from day to day with magnificence. 20 But a certain beggar named Laz′a‧rus used to be put at his gate, full of ulcers 21 and desiring to be filled with the things dropping from the table of the rich man. Yes, too, the dogs would come and lick his ulcers. 22 Now in course of time the beggar died and he was carried off by the angels to the bosom [position] of Abraham. “Also, the rich man died and was buried. 23 And in Ha′des he lifted up his eyes, he existing in torments, and he saw Abraham afar off and Laz′a‧rus in the bosom [position] with him. 24 So he called and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me and send Laz′a‧rus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in anguish in this blazing fire.’ 25 But Abraham said, ‘Child, remember that you received in full your good things in your lifetime, but Laz′a‧rus correspondingly the injurious things. Now, however, he is having comfort here but you are in anguish. In this prophacy, the rich man depicted the false religious teachers, and Lazarus depicted the common people who have been denied true knowledge of Jehovah God by the false religious leaders. the Common People are despised by the false religious leaders. The "Fire" represents the fiery message against these false teachers, and that its message makes them anguished and torments them. This message comes from none other then God's word itself! The very book they supposedly stand by! The water mentioned to cool the Rich Man's fingers and tongue signifies that the false teachers want God's true servants to stop the preaching work that Jesus asked for us to do, or to have the Bible's message watered down so that their torment wouldn;t be so severe. Of course, when Jesus told this illistration to his Appostles, he was talking about the false religious teachers of his time, mainly the Pharacees and Sadusees. It could also be the same for our time as well. Just put the common people of the world as the poor man Lazarus and the Rich man as the false teachers and clergy of the churchs. The Bible's message is clear: And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. (Revelation 18:4) Let God's Kingdom Come!


Geoff in OZ May 18, 2012 7:47 pm (Pacific time)

Good luck with all that. But you are just some ad hoc organisation with no authority to do anything whatsoever. Your threat to reconvene your 'court' is empty as you have no authority under law to do anything whatsoever to anyone, for any reason. It would be what we would call here a 'kangaroo court' and has no basis in law. So that is an empty threat. Most of what you are proposing if your demands are not met are unlawful. Occupying a church would doubtless see you looking at long jail terms for criminal trespass. We aren't talking about a fine and a slap on the wrist, so you might want to think about that. You are nothing but a bunch of fringe extremists with no political power or legal basis and your threats are as meaningless as your overstated demands. BTW, I'm not Catholic, nor do I work for them, but I know a kook agenda when I see it. Have a nice day. Geoff in Oz


Tom May 18, 2012 5:33 am (Pacific time)

you should be ashamed of yourselves for going on line and printing these remarks. It is not the proper way to teach people the truth. It is very rude and inconsiderate of those involved in this religion.
Be more considerate and tactful in presenting your message so as not to unintenionaly hurt people's feelings and turn them in the opposition direction from the truth.

Editor: Nobody is specifically trying to harm feelings, at least no on our staff.  Pleased by advised that we advocate for the Catholic clergy in Sri Lanka where they are threatened, and in other instances.  


jan May 18, 2012 8:48 am (Pacific time)

This article is long overdue. May the perpertrators of such crimes be punished to the fullest.


Advocate of GOD'S WORD May 17, 2012 9:15 pm (Pacific time)

No Matter how much commendable effort is put into trying to destroy or bring down The so = corrupt catholic church, there is only one solution. God's Kingdom by Christ to remove ALL satanic religions world wide. When that happens, All will know it is from Jehovah God Almighty. Keep on the Watch. Its not far off.


Prophet May 17, 2012 9:19 pm (Pacific time)

Do not be critical of this group for taking this action and don't undermine what they may accomplish. God said Babylon the Great would fall by earthly element, and that he would destroy the wicked Governments. So if this is one of the things that might aid in that fall then so be it. But one way or another, the fall is inevidable.


Ric May 17, 2012 3:10 pm (Pacific time)

"GOING BEYOND what is written" again"..it never fails !! The destruction of Babylon the Great comes from the UNITED NATIONS, not a movement in Ireland !! duh !


bible study May 16, 2012 5:56 pm (Pacific time)

Everyone calm down. As nice as it would be to see this occur lets be honest. These groups mentioned have absolutely no power to do anything. The fall of Babylon the Great will come from Jehovah, not man.


Humble Harry May 16, 2012 9:13 am (Pacific time)

JEHOVAH'S NAME WILL BE SANCTIFIED.


ThatCelloChick May 16, 2012 6:41 am (Pacific time)

I wonder how many activists know that they are playing right into the fulfillment of prophecy? Rock on, Mr. Arnett, but behold, false religion has a reckoning with the Almighty Himself. To all those who "witness" events like these..."and just a little while longer..."


Pat Wiggins May 15, 2012 2:06 pm (Pacific time)

To our whole association of brothers-John 8:32


Moe May 14, 2012 9:21 pm (Pacific time)

This is incredible! Revelation 17 and 18 is about to commence its fullfiment.


The Pope May 14, 2012 11:58 am (Pacific time)

Take them down!!! Put them all in circulation in street gand infested US prisions to experience the rape they practice. Let the MS13, crips and latin kings do their thing.


unknown May 14, 2012 10:51 am (Pacific time)

All religions are false, get out of all of them! The bible is the only true mouthpiece of Jehovah-YHWH, not a man made making money all of all people, trying to sell heaven or paradise to them! Read your bible..


Grandpa Len May 13, 2012 3:11 pm (Pacific time)

Hey kids? Be careful of what you ask. You may actually get it. I am not saying there should be no consequences. Definitely there must be. But, what are you going to do if the R/C church is 'excommunicated' from the signatory countr[ies] ? You will have an even worse false religion seeping, creeping, stealing in. Muslim/ Mohamadanism/ Islamism. Catholics persecuted people. Muslims murdered them, millions upon millions upon millions. Will you go after the Muslim extremes of forcing you and your family to live ONLY in certain areas, wearing certain clothes, having women circumcised/ mutilated per the edict of Mohamad, an admitted child raptist? Watch what you do, what you say, how you react.

Tim King: Your post is paranoid.  Millions of who?  Just remember people call out others for what they hate most in themselves. Lying only makes your nose grow like a puppet.  How about the Israelis who attack women and girls for not dressing properly to meet their religious standards?  And who is it that decided that they should cut the end of the penis off?  Oh yeah, the Jews.  It makes me sick to read crap like this while Israel, a land of thieves and terrorists, keeps stealing land in an apartheid government that has separate laws for people depending on their religion.  This makes me sick. Clean up your own problems in your own church buddy before you lie about others in defence.  


Truth May 12, 2012 10:28 pm (Pacific time)

1 Timothy 4:1-3
The Spirit has explicitly said that during the last times some will desert the faith and pay attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines that come from devils,
2 seduced by the hypocrisy of liars whose consciences are branded as though with a red-hot iron:
3 they forbid marriage and prohibit foods which God created to be accepted with thanksgiving by all who believe and who know the truth.


mary rose May 12, 2012 9:58 pm (Pacific time)

The God of the universe, will soon act against all of false religion, the catholic church being only one of thousands that have smeared his sacred name.


The Watcher May 13, 2012 8:51 am (Pacific time)

The Hand writing is on the wall, After these things I saw another angel descending from heaven, with great authority; and the earth was lighted up from his glory. And he cried out with a strong voice, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, and she has become a dwelling place of demons and a lurking place of every unclean exhalation and a lurking place of every unclean and hated bird! For because of the wine of the anger of her fornication all the nations have fallen [victim], and the kings of the earth committed fornication with her, and the traveling merchants of the earth became rich due to the power of her shameless luxury.” (Revelation 18:1-3) Not Just the Catholic Church, although their History is very well known, From the Dark ages to the present. But all Religions that teach ancient Babylonian doctrines. The Catholic Church, mostly stands out because they Claim to represent the Almighty, and then blaspheme him by their practices, along with Babylonian doctrines.


mid-west agnostic May 13, 2012 7:46 am (Pacific time)

Hmmm, seems to be some facts missing from the misguided who attempt to represent 'Social Justice'. Why doesn't this organization do something about the molestation and sex abuse that is occurring in our public school systems at a rampant rate? What about our Universities which have been complicit in abuse of children? Seriously? This is nothing more than a liberal/progressive/socialist/communist undertaking to undermine religion and religious freedom on a global scale.


Jane May 13, 2012 2:37 am (Pacific time)

There's no need to argue. History speaks for itself, including revealing the true origin of the Catholic Church. No matter how much some people believe the rituals of the church are beautiful and the churches are beautiful and they are filled with emotion, that does not change the facts.


tony May 12, 2012 5:30 pm (Pacific time)

all i can say is read Matt,7:21-23


dezzy May 12, 2012 5:34 am (Pacific time)

Atheist May ! you are bloody so Lunatic Nutcase you haven't got any's clues maid coz you are Atheist so is nothing to do with you maid you haven't got any's clues yet or whatsoever have you? or if you not ! then you must be BLINDED by someone


William May 12, 2012 3:42 am (Pacific time)

To Atheist: "real murderers"? How much more evidence do you need? I know who you're talking about, and I agree. But we need to pick our battles, and I for one care more about those who suffer due to the perversions committed by false religion - for now. Nice to know you care about injustice, though.


Dave Dude in The Truth May 11, 2012 10:29 pm (Pacific time)

And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. 6 Render to her even as she herself rendered, and do to her twice as much, yes, twice the number of the things she did; in the cup in which she put a mixture put twice as much of the mixture for her. 7 To the extent that she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning. For in her heart she keeps saying, ‘I sit a queen, and I am no widow, and I shall never see mourning.’ 8 That is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire, because Jehovah God, who judged her, is strong. Rev. eightteen four through eight.


Dave May 11, 2012 10:26 pm (Pacific time)

(Revelation 18:4) And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. 6 Render to her even as she herself rendered, and do to her twice as much, yes, twice the number of the things she did; in the cup in which she put a mixture put twice as much of the mixture for her. 7 To the extent that she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning. For in her heart she keeps saying, ‘I sit a queen, and I am no widow, and I shall never see mourning.’ 8 That is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire, because Jehovah God, who judged her, is strong.


bruno Breit. May 11, 2012 7:28 pm (Pacific time)

well what would you expect of a religion which is counterfeit, as the first pope never was ordain by the All MIGHTY GOD JEHOVAH. We know this as it teaches more on how to worship the demons then to give recognition to the true God. The catholic church put the wrong fear into people like going to hell, that the soul of a person at death either goes to hell or heaven. Matter of a fact, hell is mention in the Bible as the common grave also known as a pit. Even the uniforms they wear like the hat what they wear represents the fish god Dagan mention in the Bible. All the worships like Christmass, easter and so on are whitewashed celabrations of pagan customs. And also they promote all the wars which were faught. Just think about this. The church on both side blesses thr troups in God's name and then sends them out to kill each other. I feel sad and sorry for all the troups who thought they were doing the right thing, fighting for their country. Where Jesus gave his disciples a new commandment to have intense love for each other. Plus also before he went back to his Father (in the spirit) he stated in the holy Scriptures (Matthew 28:18-20.)And Jesus approached and spoke to them (that's his disciples): All authority has been given to me in heaven (note!) and on the earth. Go therefore and make disciples of people of ALL THE NATIONS, baptizing the Father (Jehovah) and the Son (Jesus) and the holy spirit (His active force), teaching them to observe ALL THE THINGS I HAVE COMMANED YOU. And, look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of thing. So, you see Christendom (all the false religion who clain to be worshipping the true God but do not promote what God wants them to do and teach.) So, How cab a disciple of God pick up a gun and shoot his brother? Chrisendom has a lot to answer for this and shortly God will step in and destroy them. As the apostle Paul stated in the letter he wrote to the Athens congregation (Standing before Areopagus and said:Men of Athens, I behold that in all things you seem to be more given to the fear of the deities than others are. For instance, while passing along and carefully observing your objects of veneration I also found an altar on which had been instribed 'To an unknown God.' Therefore what you unknowingly giving godly devotion to, This I am publishing to you. The God that made theworld and all the things in it, being, as this One is, Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in handmade temples. neither is he attended to by human hands as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all [persons] life and breath and all things. And he made out of one [man] every nation of men to dwell upon the entire surface of the earth, and he decreed the (NOTE!) appointed times and the set limits of dwelling of [men], for them to seek God, if they might grope for him and really find him, although, in fact, he is not far off each one of us. For by him we have life and move and exist, even as certain ones of the poets among you have said, for we are all his progencey. Also Paul informed the congregation on the things they should not do. And if they do to remove them from the congrgation. Another word you kick them out so as to keep the congregation clean.


William Ruffer May 11, 2012 5:48 pm (Pacific time)

Yes, but what does the Bible have to say about it? Does the Church have any authority not ostensibly given her by the Holy Scriptures, or is that a lie too? The Bible claims to predict the future - including the end of religious falsehood, no matter how powerful - "She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, the one who made all the nations drink the wine resulting from anger due to her sexual perversions!" - Revelation 14:8 Whether or not this is the time for that fulfillment, it is still very interesting for all who seek the truth. And our responses suggest that we are all very interested.


marg symonds May 11, 2012 2:12 pm (Pacific time)

Men cannot punish these criminals enough, but God will destroy them because they have been carrying out these and other astrocitied in his name!! Psalm 37c9, 20


Atheist May 11, 2012 1:57 pm (Pacific time)

You guys are a bunch of lunatic nutcases. Start fighting real murderers and know that big brother is not the Catholic Church. Either come to your senses or go on fighting against your windmills.


MySweetMary May 10, 2012 1:58 pm (Pacific time)

I hope what you claim is true and the action be taken against the R.C.C. comes to be.....but I think this is just wishful thinking. The true God in heaven will soon take action against them.


Janice Smith May 6, 2012 1:10 pm (Pacific time)

The Roman Catholic Church: "Catholics,leave the thinking to us!" Janice says: NOT!! Bunch of liars, crooks and criminals!


COLLI May 6, 2012 10:28 am (Pacific time)

Rome is not a lunatic fringe. It is arrogance personified and power corrupted. It is an entity so used to creating its own rules but excepting itself from those same rules that it knows no other existence nor will it accept any other existence. You are probably talking about the single richest organization in the world that has a history of deliberate harboring of criminals who have perpetrated not just crimes against humanity again and again but crimes against children.


Ralph E. Stone May 6, 2012 7:37 am (Pacific time)

Remember Anthony Quinn in "The Shoes of the Fisherman," a movie based on Morris L. West's novel? Quinn plays a Russian priest who has spent 20 years in a Siberian labor camp. When Russian and Chinese relations deteriorate, Russian Premier Kamenev, played by Laurence Olivier, releases him and he is made a cardinal. Kamenev wishes to have a representative at the Vatican in Rome for future political situations. When the Pope, played by John Gielgud, dies, a series of events makes the Russian priest the first Pope from a communist country. Taking the name of the saint who spread the gospel to Russia, he becomes Pope Kiril Lakota. To avert war and alleviate starvation, the Pope cedes all the church holdings to the poor and resumes the church's mission in poverty. This, of course, is not in the novel. But it does make you think, why not?


Ralph E. Stone May 6, 2012 7:27 am (Pacific time)

Remember "The Boys of St. Vincent," a 1992 film directed by John N. Smith for the National Film Board of Canada. It is a two part docudrama based on real events that took place at the Mount Cashel Orphanage in St. John's, Newfoundland, one of a number of child sexual abuse scandals in the Roman Catholic Church. The first film, The Boys of St. Vincent, covers the sexual and physical abuse of a number of orphans by Brothers headed by Brother Peter Lavin (Henry Czerny). The second film, The Boys of St. Vincent: 15 Years Later, covers the trial of the Brothers.


REMK May 5, 2012 4:55 pm (Pacific time)

Lunatic fringe.

Editor: You mean Rome?  


Fr. Tim Moyle May 5, 2012 10:21 am (Pacific time)

An ad-hoc umbrella of malcontents and bigots (given the name of one organization is called 'Anti Catholic Church Activists Worldwide' - I think the terms are appropriate) demand that the Church license all priests as public servants, return all the 'wealth generated from the abuse of children', etc. etc. etc... The Ten Point statement was issued by The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State, an umbrella organization of over fifty organizations in the United States, Canada, Ireland, England and Australia. “Pope Benedict and his Bishops have until midnight on September 15 to start complying with these measures” said ITCCS Secretary Kevin Annett today. “After that, we will begin actions to halt the normal operation of the Roman Catholic Church around the world, and we will seek indictments against Pope Benedict and other Vatican officials for crimes against humanity and criminal conspiracy.” The ACCAW, ITCCS (International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State - an official sounding title for an organization with no authority or power to judge anything let alone the RC Church) and other groups have staged high profile occupations of Catholic churches during their regular services, and plan to escalate these actions into “a permanent campaign of non-violent disruption and civil disobedience aimed at the Roman Catholic Church … until the Church’s reign of terror over children is ended. Sure, like that's going to happen. I'm sure that the Church hierarchy is shaking in their boots... NOT! Add to this the erroneous headline claiming Cardinal Martin is resigning - something that has been denied by the man himself - and you have the complete makings of a farce masquerading as a news story.

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