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Dec-29-2011 17:44printcomments

Politicians Want your Kid's Blood and Guts Spilled in Iran

Attack Persia... and We'll Break America in Two

Girl in Iran
What possible sense would it make to wage more war?

(SALEM) - The seemingly inevitable war with Iran that warmongers are calling for must be something we all deserve- as the human cretins who have ruined this planet with ways of war and violence and enslavement and trafficking. The recent words of a friend keep ringing; "People are increasingly moved by fear, they aren't moved by love."

American politicians want more of this.

Regardless of how nonsensical it is, or how little sense it makes, American politicians who are parading as Christians, are piling on the propaganda about Iran and they are leaning into the wind, trying oh-so-hard to gain sufficient momentum to plunge this already pathetic country into its final showdown: World War Three.

What can we say, apparently one war isn't enough for Uncle Sam, we're the land of deadly redneck troops who call the people they are said to assist "towel heads" and "sand niggers" because American soldiers are all too often, uneducated idiots. They know about rifle squad tactics, but not that men shouldn't ever strike women.

It's more than wrong, and not one single thing the average American believes is true about ancient Persia- Iran. It is like the United States, an imperfect place, it has a government that does things it should not do, against its own people, just like the Americans with the Occupy Movement. The price will be dead sons, daughters, mothers and fathers.

Eventually they wear the peace people down, that is what I am seeing. If the attack is inevitable then I hope that Iran is able to defend itself fully and that allies join this country in its defense against the western and Israeli military and geopolitical interests.

Someone I care a great deal about who served in Iraq told me that he and his friends strongly believed Iran was supplying weapons to aid the Iraqi resistance. Now, I ask you to recall the movie 'Red Dawn' and tell me that if Canada were under attack, that the Americans would not send them military supplies? It isn't a question of if they did but only a question of why, and the answer is that neighbors take care of each other, and a threat against one sovereign nation is certainly a threat to the one adjacent to it.

America historically trades its national friends and enemies around as if it is playing a board game with the world that it will always cheat to win.

Western History with Iran

The history of our problems with Iran date back to the post WWII period and the story is extremely important in gaining an understanding of the current Iran crisis.

Iranian PM Mohammad Mossadegh. Photo courtesy: Wikipedia

The Brits were up to their elbows in Iranian crude oil during the years following the war in what was supposed to be a cooperative, international agreement. Iran's government pleaded with the British "Anglo Iranian Oil Company" to open the books and work with them to ensure Iran was being paid the agreed upon price per barrel of oil. The company refused to comply and viewed the Iranian demands to be paid a fair market price as a threat and a hostility, as Iran was gravitating toward the nationalization of oil as a counter measure.

U.S. President Harry Truman refused British calls for assistance in striking out at Iran over the oil issue, but the election of Dwight Eisenhower represented a new opportunity for cooperation, and soon the U.S. government secretly agreed to work with the British SAS and overthrow the first democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran, PM Mohammad Mossadegh. As Salem-News.com Associate Editor Daniel Johnson wrote in his article, Iran 1953, Mossadegh, educated in France and Switzerland, was the first Iranian to achieve a doctorate in law from a European university. He was descended from royalty on his mother’s side and his father had been Iran’s finance minister for more than twenty years.

He was a pro-Iranian idealist who believed that the Iranian people deserved more than the 16% of oil royalties they had been getting from the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company. Both houses of parliament voted unanimously to nationalize the oil company. They also proposed reimbursing the British for the money it had spent building its wells and refinery. This is the kind of thing that the electorate in both Britain and US should have applauded. But the leaders, President Eisenhower and the two Dulles brothers, who had the power, rejected it.

Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi
Photo courtesy: Wikipedia

The CIA removed the Shah, Mohammad Rezā Shāh Pahlavi, from the country and placed him in a sort of reeducation camp for nine months. After that, the Shah was reinstalled as a puppet leader for Iran who agreed to U.S. demands and for many years, there were peaceful relations between Iran and the west.

That all came to a screaming halt during Iran's Revolution in 1979. Islamic fundamentalists kidnapped a number of Americans, holding them for 444 days, and relations between the two countries grew bitter and hostile. A failed rescue attempt that claimed the life of a number of U.S. Marines added to the tension. The American hostages were released as the United States Presidency was changing hands between Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan. Many believe that the timing was completely engineered by the Reagan team.

After that, in retribution for the hostage taking, the U.S. funded Saddam Hussein and prompted him to launch the Iran/Iraq War. Iraq was defeated and Iran retained its status as a foe of great power.

The defeat was apparently not recognized by Saddam Hussein on a public level, as thousands of Iranian military helmets are embedded in concrete on his parade ground in Baghdad where massive crossed swords tower overhead. On the parade ground, Iranian helmets are half sunken into the ground to signify his forces "marching over the heads of the Persians" in victory.

But there was no victory. No victory, no WMD's, and Iran consistently says it has no nuclear weapons program. Want more? Israel, a country settled under very controversial circumstances, that Americans feel they should defend at all costs, has had nukes all along. For decades the Israeli's paraded as a non-nuclear entity falsely under the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, and as it turns out they at least 150 of them. (see: Carter Reveals Israel's Possession of 150 Nuclear Weapons)

Israel's 1967 Attack on the U.S.S. Liberty

Israel is also the country that attacked the U.S. Navy ship Liberty during the Six Day War in 1967. Sailors aboard the vessel that day have told Salem-News.com and other entities consistently that they were flying the American flag. (see: The Day Israel Attacked the United States)

The U.S.S. Liberty after an attack
by Israeli jets and torpedo boats in '67

The Israeli's didn't just attack it once either. The combined air and sea attack killed 34 and wounded more than 170 crew members, while damaging the technical research ship severely.

The jet fighters and torpedo boats fired over and over again killing and injuring innocent American "allies" who had waived to the jet pilots after identifying them as Israeli. The issue over the U.S.S. Liberty has never adequately been resolved between the United States and Israel.

In the end, our government effectively ignores an attack on our nation that claim American lives, and yet we demonize Iran which has never fired a shot at us. One of our fighter jets even mistakenly blasted an Iranian airliner out of the sky that led to the deaths of hundreds of innocent people. The U.S. government came up with several stories before finally confessing to the mistake. As angering, wrong and unnecessary as it was when Iran took Americans hostage in 1979, it was bloodless.

Israel was formed by terrorizing Palestinian people from their land in the years following WWII; that is a fact. Many of the first residents of Israel were survivors of the Holocaust; a group that survived unspeakable inhumanities and genocide at the hands of the Nazi's. Their plight is tragic, but the tragedy was pushed onto Arab people in the Mid East and that is the source of the resentment towards the Jewish State.

Dead U.S. sailors aboard the USS Liberty- killed blatantly by Israel.

All of these nations, regardless of their religious and cultural differences and leadership, have good points and bad points. The key toward moving forward is reducing violence and injecting money into food, health and education programs. The history may be harsh but new generations are growing up and people can be reached. The constant paranoia about nuclear weapons that Iran says it doesn't have, just keeps emotions in TV viewers stirred up through the one dimensional western media treatment of the subject. Even if they were aspiring to build nuclear weapons, how do we justify Israel's recently revealed position of possessing these weapons when it officially does not?

Kinder actions among governments and broader cultural understandings are the key elements that can stabilize this part of the world. Iran's position as a political and military power is bolstered by the defeat of Saddam Hussein's Iraq. His government flexed its muscles and kept relations between the nations stable and aggressions at bay. That is what I was told by Iraqi people that I interviewed.

Posturing, lies... it almost sounds like an elementary schoolyard issue, but the players are countries. Each government referred to in this article, including the U.S., has exhibited serious behavioral issues that conflict with any real notion of world peace. The people who like to beat the war drum; politicians like John McCain, Joe Lieberman and more recently Sarah Palin, seem at times like they really and seriously believe attacking Iran is something to consider.

This is another country that has not struck out at us. Their controversial President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, wanted to lay flowers at Ground Zero in New York City and he was denied. That is a rotten example of sportsmanship in any context. He can not make a statement and have it properly translated into English either very often either. Networks put their own spin on his words, causing him to sound more aggressive and dangerous toward Iran than he in reality is.

One of the favorite propaganda lines from FOX in particular, is that the Iranian President "denies the Holocaust".

The interesting fact that conflicts with that often repeated accusation, is that Iranian government TV recently ran a multi-episode series on the Holocaust; taking into account the the plight of the Jews and others during WWII. It was government sponsored, that sure doesn't sound like a place that is trying to re-write history.

Ahmadinejad has stated repeatedly that the Holocaust affected far more than just the Jewish people; it is very true when you measure the millions of civilians in Europe who were killed directly or indirectly by Hitler's war machine. He does not deny the Holocaust; he just doesn't want all the people who weren't Jewish or in concentration camps denied.

Another interesting fact is that the people of Iran like Americans; they enjoy our styles, music, etc.

When the U.S. was attacked by terrorists on September 11th 2001, the second largest candlelight vigil in honor of the Americans killed that day was in Tehran, Iran.

Iranian people are a distinct culture, they are Persian. They live under a mix of traditional Islamic and modern western cultural values. Women are not nearly as subjugated as they are in Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia; two American allies.

I have developed friendships with a number of people in Iran via MySpace in an effort to better understand their culture, lifestyle, freedoms and ambitions.

One friend in Iran who has shared a good deal of information about Iran's culture and religion from a woman's perspective, Roya, explains that religions "accepted" in Iran are ones that grant the people a right to have social health insurance, free education and parliament members.

Zorastrians Tamouz praying at a Summer Festival

She says people are primarily divided among the three Semitic religions, branches of Abraham monotheism religions: Muslims (Shia/Sunni); Christians; and Jews.

She says the religion of all the Iranians before Arabs invaded Iran and converted people to Islam, was Zorastrian.

"We don't have Buddhists, Taoists or Hindus...and Iran's government doesn't consider any right for Bahia people." (Bahiasm is an Iranian religion).

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is much like President Bush in that he is a fundamentalist conservative who bases policy off supposedly religious values. Of course in reality George W. Bush, who has driven this nation into debt like a fast ball, has very few apparent real conservative values.

Ahmadinejad's reign in my opinion, is the backlash of the U.S. and Great Britain treating these people like dirt in the 1940's and early 1950's. All of this, like Vietnam, could have been avoided if we had been fairer nations then. Why are we not accountable for those mistakes? It is time to lay down our egos and suspicions and let the truth be what it is. The price of pushing a conflict carries unimaginable costs and the world is tense right now. It is time to let things cool down and be prepared to search for better answers.

Finally, our military is tired and greatly understaffed. I don't care what anyone says, I know because I have seen it in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Our military forces are faithful, it is time for this nation to be faithful in return and not consider any sort of military action or threat against Iran.

Oil and Israel

The only Mideast nations that have felt the wrath of western forces in recent years, directly or indirectly, with the exception of Afghanistan, are the countries that refuse to accept the legitimacy of Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine, or endorse Israel's cruel treatment of the Palestinian people, complete with apartheid laws that govern and punish Jewish and non Jewish people in distinctly different ways.

Those countries that objected to this cruelty include Iraq and Iran.

The British occupied country after country in previous centuries; exploiting their people and products. Iran, the classical Persia - a culture thousands of years old, was in the sites of the west over oil for much of the 20th century.

Combine the oil with objections to Israel's war crimes, and you have the two reasons Iran is perpetually demonized by western media and politicians, especially by Israel's.

The western theft of Iran's profits was going strong in the early 1950's when the British 'Anglo Iranian Oil Company' - known simply as BP today; refused to pay the Iranians the agreed upon revenues for oil or even open the books to them.

By 1953 Iran's first democratically elected President was talking about nationalizing oil, and that is when the US and UK conspired to take out the Iranian president and ultimately replace him with the Shah who functioned as a western puppet leader for Iran until the Revolution of 1979.

No wonder they were angry by that point; having little or no control of their own nation's wealth and resources for decades.

These were the years when problems between Arab and Israeli people were in full swing. Israeli Zionists believe that 'God gave them the land" (Palestine) that is now called Israel and they use a Biblical interpretation to justify the theft of land from families who have lived in Palestine for endless generations.

It is taking place right this second; Israeli settlers are becoming increasingly violent toward Palestinians and Israel is also seeing the persecution of darker skinned Jews. The place is a mess.

Prior to the huge numbers of refugees moving to Palestine in the late 1940's and building settlements; Muslim, Christian and Jewish people live here in peace. At that time there was a relatively low number of Jewish people, but they had been there consistently to some degree along with everyone else, however most had left long ago.

Today Israeli propaganda machines spin tale after tale meant to excuse the extremely illegal acts their military is constantly accused of. They don't have to be the way they are; using illegal weapons like white phosphorous to destroy the civilian population of Gaza, where Israel murdered over 1400 people in the cruelest way two years ago during 'Operation Cast Lead' which is regarded as little more than a series of aggressive war crimes by the United Nations.

Muslims Replaced Communists as US 'Enemy'

Starting with Ronald Reagan and the covert funding of Iraq's attack on Iran that is known as 'The Iran-Iraq War', the US has been on a roll to draw former allies in the Middle east into a fight.

A US diplomat had given Saddam Hussein the green light to invade Kuwait in 1990; then the first US President Bush, who came into power when the US lacked a substantial enemy like the collapsed Soviet Union; found Iraq to be an easy target.

90% of Americans hadn't even heard of Kuwait.

Propaganda peddled at the time about Iraqi soldiers tossing babies from incubators has been exposed to be a hoax, as was Saddam Hussien's 'meat grinder' in Baghdad; grade A bullshit. The US Air Force mowed down retreating Iraqi soldiers after choking them in a bottleneck which prevented their escape.

Muslim Deaths from the US Military

Possibly the world's most important video- the UN's
Declaration of Human Rights

When Stephen M. Wait wrote the article Why They Hate Us...How Many Muslims Have US Killed In Last 30 Years? in December 2009 for Canadian Content, he related an approach he learned that stands in sharp contrast to the George W. Bush 'Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out' style.

"I heard a different take on this subject at a recent conference on U.S. relations with the Islamic world. In addition to hearing a diverse set of views from different Islamic countries, one of the other participants (a prominent English journalist) put it quite simply. 'If the United States wants to improve its image in the Islamic world,' he said, 'it should stop killing Muslims.'"

When he wrote his piece Wait was intentionally conservative in terms of numbers. Wait tabulated US fatalities from Muslims at 10,325; almost 1500 more than the figure I came up with. He conservatively estimated the number of Muslims killed by the US in Desert Storm, from sanctions on Iraq, fighting in Mogadishu, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq (through 1 Dec. 2009) and the 1988 Iranian civilian airliner shot down by a US Navy fighter jet from the aircraft carrier USS Vincennes.

His figure for Muslims killed by the US: 288,000. I believe the number is at least four times larger than that, but say he is right: this places the death ratio at 30 to 1. In this 'war on terrorism' the Americans have killed at the very minimum, thirty times the number of human beings than their perceived enemies in the Middle east.

Enemies created to justify a massive American military industrial complex; that is what it all comes down to, and it helps to remember that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. The money is the only determinate.

Arab people do not worship money the way Americans and Israelis do, at least not the Palestinians; they're too concerned with simply surviving. Israel increasingly uses American money to pillage and imprison this entire culture and Israel miserably fails at its obligation to uphold the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights. This is unacceptable and must change.

Those with excessive greed and endless American taxpayer revenue use F-16's to cause widespread murder and mayhem on civilian populations and those without it throw rocks and sometimes fire rockets.

The people with the F-16's steal land from the people who throw rocks. Money is the root of all evil, you figure it out.

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Tim King: Salem-News.com Editor and Writer

Tim King has more than twenty years of experience on the west coast as a television news producer, photojournalist, reporter and assignment editor. In addition to his role as a war correspondent, this Los Angeles native serves as Salem-News.com's Executive News Editor. Tim spent the winter of 2006/07 covering the war in Afghanistan, and he was in Iraq over the summer of 2008, reporting from the war while embedded with both the U.S. Army and the Marines. Tim is a former U.S. Marine.

Tim holds awards for reporting, photography, writing and editing, including the Silver Spoke Award by the National Coalition of Motorcyclists (2011), Excellence in Journalism Award by the Oregon Confederation of Motorcycle Clubs (2010), Oregon AP Award for Spot News Photographer of the Year (2004), First-place Electronic Media Award in Spot News, Las Vegas, (1998), Oregon AP Cooperation Award (1991); and several others including the 2005 Red Cross Good Neighborhood Award for reporting. Tim has several years of experience in network affiliate news TV stations, having worked as a reporter and photographer at NBC, ABC and FOX stations in Arizona, Nevada and Oregon. Tim was a member of the National Press Photographer's Association for several years and is a current member of the Orange County Press Club.

Serving the community in very real terms, Salem-News.com is the nation's only truly independent high traffic news Website. As News Editor, Tim among other things, is responsible for publishing the original content of 91 Salem-News.com writers. He reminds viewers that emails are easily missed and urges those trying to reach him, to please send a second email if the first goes unanswered. You can write to Tim at this address: newsroom@salem-news.com

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Danny January 7, 2012 12:33 pm (Pacific time)

FIRST AD LAST! This is the first and last time I read the Salem "News". As a respectful Canadian, I find the above article abhorent. It is a mix of a few grains of truth with lies told with a fervent anti-Semitic and anti-Western bigotry. Too bad, as this so-called news agency is doing the progressive community a great disservice.

Editor: Well I don't respect you, so you can change that title out.  Second, all of you who say you will never return always do, so make good on it will  you!  You should not be antixemitic, that is a terrible quality for a person to sport, you should not hate Arab people or Jewish people, the semetic people; you also represent the war face, I hope you get to see it personally. 


Anonymous January 5, 2012 9:51 am (Pacific time)

"Tim King: Blah blah blah... if you think anyone believes you for a second you are way off track." You really are a nut! You have never spent any significant time anywhere overseas, you have no educational background worth a crap, and what you think is "journalist experience" no other professionals even considers it as anything more than an agenda driven by dark ignorance. Ergo, how many paid jobs have you created since you started this propaganda website? You are being played by the hustlers, and no doubt the biggest hustler, hussein obutthead, will continue to control that freaky stupidity that this site supports. It's hard to believe people like you exist in America, it really is. You are simply following the zionist playbook, and you think you are doing otherwise.


Mark January 2, 2012 10:10 am (Pacific time)

Tim your comments on France are absurd. What do you know about French culture, history, values, etc.? You seem to echo statements by those who never provide evidence, just opinions that have no basis in fact. Do you have a formal education beyond high school? Did you finish high school? GED? Your listed experience reflects someone who really has very limited experience or education/training in Journalism, or anything else for that matter. When you make these blanket statements about history, even current situations in the middle east, it appears it's based on what your ideal is rather than actual fact. My guess is all the years you have been doing this site, not one mainstream news source has used any of it. There are reasons for that young man, maybe it's that you are simply putting out garbage. GIGO: Garbage in, garbage out. Many of your articles come from those who hate America and want to destroy us, is that your intent, to aid those who want to kill us? If so, then you and I should meet in person and see how things work out during that commo to see what your intentions are for my country, okay? Bring your marxists cohorts...Peace...

Tim King: Blah blah blah... if you think anyone believes you for a second you are way off track.  


what matters January 1, 2012 8:57 pm (Pacific time)

where do u get this facts,because it is the truth.


Vic December 31, 2011 4:42 pm (Pacific time)

Awesome article, Tim !

Thank you Vic!


Amanda Black December 31, 2011 3:17 pm (Pacific time)

The US should first take care of our internal problems, which are plenty and out of hand - before even remotely anticipating engaging in another war, and end the hypocritical policies with the zionist regime of Israel.


Anonymous December 31, 2011 12:16 pm (Pacific time)

"Editor: Well Mark, as the first person in history to ever publish stories about war dead with images of each individual..."The editor's comments are a good window into the soul of the insane.

Editor: Gee I'm really offended.  You perhaps don't understand, while covering deaths from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars I was able to write this: Casualties Increase as Average Age of American War Dead Falls - Tim King Salem-News.com This isn't insane, and you don't make sense. 


Anonymous December 31, 2011 6:25 am (Pacific time)

TO Mar December. WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, and all the current wars are a hoax created by the elite zionist bankers. They get the war going thru lies and propaganda, then finance both sides of the war. The side that wins, the bankers collect major bucks in interest, the side that loses, the bankers go in and buy up their assets at pennies on the dollar. Anyone, who faught in these wars thinking it was for U.S. protection/liberty/freedom...has been bamboozled..Including me, I was in the Navy. But I was smart enough to tell them "I aint shooting anyone for the bankers", so they made me a hospital corpsman. I was ok with that, at least I could bandage up the havoc from the bankers, instead of doing their killing for them for their own evil agenda.


Anonymous December 31, 2011 6:19 am (Pacific time)

Great article Tim..Its about time we learned about a country before bombing it into the stone age and putting alCIAda in charge as they did Libya. Hmmm..did ghadaffi have nukes? nope...Were they a threat to the U.S. Not even close. In fact, you know as well and I do, that as far as dictators go, ghadaffi was one of the better ones. Why dont people just admit the TRUTH!!!~ This is a zionist takeover of the middle east and africa to steal resources and build their world empire..Its obvious. Iran is NO threat to the U.S. NOR israel...the zionists want to rule the world, and Iran is in their way..and I tell ya..these elite rulers, (who come by many names ie: pharisees, khazars, zionists etc)are not nice people. They make ghadaffi lok like a saint. So, to some of the posters here, enjoy your zionist slavery and slow kill death, because that is what they are doing to you.


Sceptique December 31, 2011 12:05 am (Pacific time)

The author turns a blind eye on the innumerable violations of human rights in the Muslim world and blames Israel for not being perfect or worse for willing to survive against a sea of hatred fueled by oil money.
His obvious double standards are the surest sign of antisemitism I have seen in years. So are his blatantly antisemitic cartoons, some of which I have seen in the recently killed Vittorio Arrigoni FB page.

Editor: If you are an antisemitic that is your business but you are twisted if so, and bigots always sicken me, and, if you are into Human Rights violations that is sick.  If you root for the death of children you are downright evil.  And finally, haters like you don't even have a right to mention Vittorio Arrigoni who was one of the world's kindest and most caring activists for humanity.


Mark December 30, 2011 2:46 pm (Pacific time)

Editor I was just offering you a brief statistical glimpse into the high quality of people who serve in the military, and how unfair it is to tar them with misinformation as per them being hillbilly rednecks. In regards to what you think the educational level of personnel was during the Vietnam War, try doing a search with the phrase "Myths about the Vietnam Soldier." The educational level was way above WWII and Korean War Vets, while 2/3's of WWII vets were drafted, 2/3's of Vietnam vets were volunteers, and they had a much higher Honorable Discharge rate, as well as just a fraction of then became incarcerated compared to their civilian cohorts.I don't see how my point was a "shot in the foot," for there are some amazing stats about our young military, and regarding black officers, I say great, but then have you seen the racial breakdown of those killed in combat? It is disproportionately white, as it has been in all our wars. That is just what it is, no racial animus, it is what it is. Also it is literally impossible for one on their own to be able to statistically assess the various demographical data by personal observation, thus these studies are needed and clear up disinformation.

Editor: Well Mark, as the first person in history to ever publish stories about war dead with images of each individual, I know a thing or two about this, and I am assuming that you think... more Black people should have been killed?  I've heard your beliefs here before many times, I too am a strong advocate for the Vietnam Veteran and I believe they are part of a generation that was highly disregarded and treated like crap. My observations of particular behaviors of southern soldiers began during peacetime when I was a Marine, then I was able to witness this over time.  Here's an example of why racism is a problem; the American military was fully segregated until 1947, that is not very long ago.  In WWI, the American deal for aiding France and entering the war, was a demand that France segregate its Black forces, something that shocked and sickened the French and to this day, accounts largely for why Parisians are sometimes hostile to Americans, not that I was ever treated poorly in Paris.  So, if you really believe your data that is good, I would have to conclude with your thought that more studies should be done.


Stephen G December 29, 2011 8:57 pm (Pacific time)

The pro-Iranian statements contained in this article are non-specific.  The writer says nothing of fundamental human rights that are NOT honored in Iran, and demonizes the Israelis for having a will to survive. 

 Tim King: No way, I do not think any violation of human rights is acceptable, however I have a hard time finding ANY country not behind them, including my own.  As for Israel, which flies jets routinely over civilian neighborhoods and slaughters families purposely while stealing land from indigenous people and enacting laws that effectively build the barrier of Israeli apartheid by having laws for Jews and non-Jews, and roads for Jews and non-Jews.... Israel is just a couple of steps ahead of Nazi Germany and the U.S. is the supplier of the death tools.

It has been no secret that Israel -- a democracy -- has had Nuclear weapons since the 1960s.  Its policy has not been concealed.  It will use them if its existence is threatened. 

 Editor We truly are in a new phase, so you admit that you are aware of Israel's illegal nuclear warheads pointed at its perceived enemies.  You admit this, when the whole west is ready to attack Iran because they might eventually have one even though there is no evidence of this and that it has been specifically denied.  You admit this, when a government's holding undeclared nukes is an EXTREME violation of all international law and protocol.  If nothing else this cements the "better than thou" attitude of Zionists who think they are the only people who deserve to live, a sickening lot they are.  

If missiles from Tijuana started raining down on San Diego, you'd better believe that U.S. Forces from Camp Pendelton would deal effectively with the situation at all costs.  Why would Israel not defend itself from these chronic missile attacks projected from Iran into Lebanon and Gaza? 

 Tim King: No, here it is; Tijuana is part of Mexico, if the U.S. invaded southward and stole all of the land that comprises TJ, built settlements for Christian white Americans only, then if the Mexicans started lobbing rockets, you would have a comparison.  Not under the current conditions would this ever exist, however it is true that the two biggest enemies of the American way are drug cartels and Israeli right wing Zionists., 

It makes no sense to disregard the random attacks on civilians. 

 Tim King: Right, like the Israeli strikes on Gaza that left several dead last week?  Israel better hope it never gets what it really deserves.  Its people aren't to blame unless they are, however the politicians are the ones...

Regarding the "theft" of lands - that is poppycock.  Land was not stolen, but paid-for. 

 Tim King: OK, Now you are just lying and that is not allowed, there are thousands of documented cases where families had their land stolen, you are absolutely completely detached from reality if you don't know this takes place, how about the villages like Dier Yassin?  The irony there is that the Jewish colony located adjacent to this Palestinian town are who saved the children, watch 'Arna's Children' The video is with this article: Filmmaker Juliano Mer-Khamis was Murdered Today in Jenin

The 1967 takings reflect a nation that was forced to defend itself from an outrageous attack, and took land up to the borders that it was able to defend.  Nothing more.  That is hardly theft.  It is self defense.

Tim King: More BS, it even smells bad.  The Six Day War was an unprovoked Pearl-Harbor attack on neighboring countries and an effort to steal land, nothing less.


MoharebMullahCrusher December 30, 2011 10:53 am (Pacific time)

Funny, How Does A So CALLED Popular and Democratic ELected Government such as Mossadeq(which by the way was elected by the KING, The SHAH of IRAN Based on Mossadeq's family's Constitution which they had drawn up and the SHAH was following it) How does such popular person Get Kicked out in 2 days by HIS OWN PEOPLE ??? LOLL COUP DE TAT or an American Propaganda Machine to cover Up the real Coup in IRAN which happened in 1979 by Jimmy Peanut Farmer Carter and MI6 , Brzezinski and other mafia in the Summit meeting in Guadalupe of 1978 ??!?!? Last question, How Come Mossadeq Never spoken 1 word about a COUP ? :) ONLY AMERICANS KNOW ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN MY COUNTRY, BUT WE DON'T, RIIIIGHT ??? DAMN PROPAGANDA NEVER STOPS, But don't worry, This time the MOSSADEQISTS, Radical Islamist in IRAN will be meeting their END once and FOR ALL .. You might want to take a few minutes and learn TRUTH www.DevolutionMovie.com ,


MoharebMullahCrusher December 30, 2011 10:36 am (Pacific time)

Quote from this Uneducated author's Propaganda for the ISLAMISTS; "The CIA removed the Shah, Mohammad Rezā Shāh Pahlavi, from the country and placed him in a sort of reeducation camp for nine months. After that, the Shah was reinstalled as a puppet leader for Iran who agreed to U.S. demands and for many years, there were peaceful relations between Iran and the west."
It's funny, How come We Iranians Didn't Know the SHAH was removed by the CIA ??? How Come Mossadeq never mentioned anything about a COU ? and How is it that Mossadeq was kicked out on his behind from the Government by His own Cabinet Members after they found out about his Marxist Communist views and His connection to the Russia Communist back then who tried to help Russians achieve their goal by Breaking Up the CASPIAN SEA and so on But Not Defend IRAN AS PRIME MINISTER of a damn country ??? FINALLY, How come the SHAH of IRAN appointed this traitor Mossadeq as a Prime Minister ? Was it not because The SHAH was a country loving person and worked with all Sides to defend IRAN AND THOSE WHO LOVED IRAN ??? The SHAH's only problem was he installed a traitor such as Mossadeq which to this day the Radical leaders in Iran praise him and so do the Communists and Jihadists in IRAN ..
Welll Done Job Propagandist American Machine, Or should I say You Islamist Libtard !!!

Editor: My education could eat yours for lunch.   Your approach in leaving insulting comments is why some day it won't be so easy.  Many of my fellow writers don't think I should give people like yourself the opportunity 

From Wikipedia: Mohammad Mosaddegh or Mosaddeq (Persian: محمد مصدق, IPA: [mohæmˈmæd(-e) mosædˈdeɣ] ( listen)*), also Mossadegh, Mossadeq, Mosadeck, or Musaddiq (16 June 1882 – 5 March 1967), was the democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran from 1951 to 1953 when he was overthrown in a coup d'état orchestrated by the British MI5 and the United States Central Intelligence Agency.


Sigismond (Michel Hervé Navoiseau-B December 30, 2011 8:07 am (Pacific time)

Israelis must go back to the European countries they come from; they have A RIGHT TO RETURN there. Otherwise, we'll all die from nuclear war!


Mark December 30, 2011 6:25 am (Pacific time)

Current military demographics do not indicate anything other than a suprising make-up of honorable individuals, and certainly not a bunch of "hillbillies" nor "Redneck" out of control personnel."Low-income families are underrepresented in the military and high-income families are overrepresented. Individuals from the bottom household income quintile make up 20.0 percent of Americans who are age 18-24 years old but only 10.6 percent of the 2006 recruits and 10.7 percent of the 2007 recruits. Individuals in the top two quintiles make up 40.0 percent of the population, but 49.3 percent of the recruits in both years." "Meanwhile, whites were significantly overrepresented among enlisted Army personnel in 2010. While 58% of Americans 18-39 years old are white, 64% of the Army's enlisted men and women are. Whites are underrepresented to a minor degree in only one category, in which blacks are overrepresented: Army officers. While 74% of 25-54 year-olds with bachelor's degrees are white, 72% of Army officers are white. While 8% of 25-54 year-olds with B.A.s are black, 13% of Army officers are." "Why do myths persist despite all the evidence? One reason is lack of firsthand exposure to the military: Doing a journalistic embed with American troops or visiting a U.S. military base—or simply having some friends in the military—would disabuse my acquaintances of their beliefs." The latter comment has been my experience, except for a few who are not capable of critical analysis. Please note approx. 92% of military 18-24 year olds have a high school diploma while only 36.1% of their civilian cohorts do. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903791504576587244025371456.html? mod=rss_opinion_main

Editor: You are actually stating that there are too many Black Army officers?  That shoots your point right in the foot don't you think?  I like soldiers, i got to know many in both Iraq and Afghanistan while covering the wars there, and I can tell you that there is, sadly, a terrible spirit at hand with many.  The Vietnam War saw this problem with uneducated Americans being thrust into a nation that didn't want us.  The war crimes, the abuse, this does not take place at the hands of people who are mature or people of culture, it happens because kids are raised by racist parents and then sent to where there is no commonality, nothing makes sense and when people are too young or immature, they do not keep their behavior in check.  Now, add leadership in the form of people raised in the same circumstances, and you have a mess to deal with.  The U.S. Army also has some of the best people I have ever met in my life, so stand up and morally good that they would never do anything out of line.  These are the people who add the balance, along with state guard troops who are civilian reserves who do not have the same attitude as the U.S. Army.    


Daniel Freysinger December 29, 2011 11:19 pm (Pacific time)

I spend hours a day reading news articles and this has to be the best article on Iran that I have read. You have done an amazing job of supplying the missing pieces to the Iran puzzle that most western media choose to ignore.

I too am prior military and a strong proponent of peace. The idea that we can acheive peace through war is absolute idiocy. As a Christian I find it amazing and discouraging that many who claim to follow Christ reject his teaching to love both our neighbors and our enemies. I pray that some may come to see the error of their attitude toward Iran through your work.

Thank you

Tim King: Daniel, that was refreshing, I thank you for your insight and comment.


Arieh December 29, 2011 9:22 pm (Pacific time)

You preach against war, you say others are dumb and stupid. But your disregards to the truth of Iran and your despicable cartoon of an Israeli soldier show you are no better than the most stupid of soldier, following orders from above.

Tim King: That cartoon bugs you eh?  Just read some of the pro-Zionist comments on Salem-News and you will see that it is no stretch.  Israelis are raised and cultivated to hate the Palestinians, not in every household or school, but in far too many.  Iran is nothing great or perfect, my point is to explain the real history so people at least have a chance to know what really took place.  I am BTW the news editor of Salem-News.com, I am not following orders.


Eric December 29, 2011 6:50 pm (Pacific time)

Granted, Money IS the ROOT of all evil.....However this muslim religion, is IS a BRANCH on the tree of evil! It needs to be extracted from society as a whole!

DJ: Orthodox Judaism is identical. See "Israeli Girl, 8, at Center of Tension Over Religious Extremism”  http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/28/world/middleeast/israeli-girl-at-center-of-tension-over-religious-extremism.html?emc=eta1 " 

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