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'Democratic Underground' Attacks Salem-News Writers Opposed to RacismTim King Salem-News.com
Alison Weir and Eileen Fleming attacked by "Democratic Underground"; very democratic standing up for a war crime government, yup...
(SALEM) - Here we go again, this time it is the (cough) "democratic underground" (DU- just think 'depleted uramium') that decided to take a stand for apartheid by stabbing our brave writers, whose anti-racist positions seem to rub the folks at DU the wrong way, right in the back.
The fuss that lit this fuse was a one-year old video out of Israel that we posted, featuring a former Israeli soldier talking at length about the war crimes committed against the Palestinians back in 1948.
The former Israeli soldier, Amnon Neumann, was recorded 17 June 2010. He talks about how the Palestinians facing the militant Jews, "...didn't have a military capacity, they were very unorganized."
He talked about much-feared Givati Brigade soldiers, and how what makes war interesting, is what happens to the people who do not fight, "The most terrible events of war are at times worse than the war itself," Neumann discusses, "cases in which women are killed... children are killing..."
He said few people in the Arab villages fought back, they were poor and miserable and had no weapons, at least nothing modern.
The poor guy feels bad about what happened and wants to set the record straight. The DU writers state in regard to the video confession, "That ought to be enough for anyone".
Well it should shouldn't it? Only that isn't what they mean, not at all. DU writes, "...about a video from a year-old interview with someone. I don't doubt that he is truthfully stating his opinion..."
OK, good, at this point they believe Amnon Neumann, who they refer to in the video as "someone", is telling the truth. If this particular someone is telling the truth, then Israeli policy equated to 'atrocity city' and this is extremely important, as it marks the beginning of a murderous pattern Israel has been engaged in willingly and violently for every one of its 63 brief years.
DU writes, "The guy talking in the video is speaking in Hebrew. I can't speak to the accuracy of the English translation." (Letters italicized by this writer)
Oh good, they just pile on the professional treatment don't they? DU goes after our writers for something someone said, because they can't tell if the translation is real, but instead of mailing it to an Israeli friend or even an American friend who speaks Hebrew, DU apparently just assumes we are wrong, what kind of a Bullsh*t group is DU anyway? They like war crimes and government terrorism, Israel's two specialties, that is clear; but to do no research at all?
Here is the 'grand finale' from these folks who have absolutely no business stepping near a keyboard in this twisted age of broken international laws.
"If we want to open things up to posting shocking things said on video, there are loads of Arabic-language ones translated into English and posted on sites with at least as much legitimacy as 'salem-news' that I'm sure folks could dig up..." "...Do we really want to go there?"
I have a feeling I know where they should go, and by the way, they singled out two of our most engaged writers in the area if Palestine and Israel: Alison Weir of ifamericansonlyknew.org, and Eileen Fleming of wearewideawake.org.
These women have dealt their share of what I like to sometimes call "truth blows" to apartheid Israel, where the road you drive on depends on what religion you are part of; where Palestinian kids can be arrested at half the age of Israeli kids, and where all Palestinians are governed under a separate set of laws than those which regulate Jewish people.
Alison is the most well-known U.S. activist in exposing Israel, hence the name of her group, and she is also the President of two-decade old national group, Council for the National Interest.
Eileen has traveled to Israel and Palestine seven times, in the process interviewing and recording video segments with Mordechai Vanunu, the Israeli nuclear Whistleblower who defected and told a London-based newspaper about Israel's illegal, undeclared nuclear weapons which place the entire world in jeopardy. For this Vanunu was kidnapped by Israeli agents and placed in solitary confinement for the better part of 18 years.
Israel maintains a system that leads to terrible cruelty with absolute vigilance, and adds endless whining about "security" as Israel's forces blow Arab people to smithereens, kids and all. Only an idiot would rally for that type of international behavior.
Within their thread, there is also advocacy. One comment reads:
"It fits perfectly with what I already know about what happened in the Palestine Mandate at that particular period in history. That the Palestinians were driven out by various means is already well documented. There is nothing in the testimony that is new to anyone who is familiar with the I/P conflict.
"Salem News may have pro-Palestinian bias, but the testimony stands on its own, and was originally from another source, silviacattori.net."
That is absolutely correct, we have pro-human bias so naturally that places us on the side of the oppressed, occupied Palestinians. We do work closely with Silvia Cattori in Rome, absolutely true.
Then another poster comes along with this beauty: "...but it is a valiant attempt at delegitimization".
So let's all remember "Democratic Underground" and what they represent, or fail to represent. I suggest dropping by and letting them know what you think of their disinterest in war crimes.
Here is the video clip in question:
Special thanks to Silvia Cattori in Rome, and also to Omar Barghouti of Electronic Intifada.
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